Why are Texans pro death penalty? (Allen: law, authority, single)

[TexasReb]

Originally Posted by OmShahi

That sounds a lot like Ted Bundy. I have read a lot about him, I have read 3 books on him. The best one was one written by someone that was close to him and wasn't murdered because he shared the most intimate relationship with her, the book was called "The Stranger Beside Me". It was a very good book to read. I recommend it.
Anyways Ted Bundy was a very messed up person, much like Charles Manson. Ted Bundy took his obsession to a new level in which he killed them- at one point he even decorated a local mountain in the Seattle area with their bones and often slept besides it and talked to it as if they were still alive... that's how messed up he was psychologically.
I didn't read any of the posts in this thread besides the one right above mine and the one right above his.


Anyways to answer the question- I will do it with another question. If you were the one to execuate Ted Bundy, would you honestly be able to do so without getting nervous and having to think even twice about it?
Because I know if I had to, I would resign, but that's because I will admit that I am way to soft by nature to do that. I grew up in a different environment where we respected all life. I volunteer to an animal & bird aid every month for two days when I'm in Houston. I just don't have the background nor the conscience to do it.

I read that book about Bundy you referred to, and will try and find the other you mentioned and reply on it afterwards.

But as to last part and question, well, let me just put it this way. And I promise I am NOT trying to evoke sympathy because of my own experiences. But not long ago my 19 month old grandson was murdered by what the final autopsy indicated was deliberate blunt force trauma and suffocation. The piece of garbage that is charged was found to have a history of child pornography. I wont go too far on this, but to say that yes, I could stick a gun right between his eyes and pull the trigger and say this is for my baby grandson, you sunuvablitch. And then either go eat supper or put my hands behind my back and peacefully surrender to arrest.

BUT, I know that is not the way to handle it. I would rather let the CJ system take its course. Which I am glad includes the death penalty for crimes like this. Although, as an after-thought, in many ways, I might actually prefer the scum spend a life behind bars where, shall we say, even most others don't particularly care for his kind.

Under other circumstances? I can see the point you are making. It is not easy to take a human life, and most of us would have some degree of hesitancy and deep troubled thoughts with it when it came down to pulling the trigger in a firing squad or pulling the trap door or yanking the lever which either injected the lethal dose or the gas.

Still, that is no difference than the choices a soldier in wartime is confronted with, or when someone is confronted with a deadly assault when the choice is kill or be killed. Or a cop on duty has to make and haunts him the rest of his life. None of it is easy, but it is often necessary.

Capital punishment is justice, and not vengeance and for sure not murder. It is the legal response (and catharsis) for the most heineous of crimes.

[iPwn]

Originally Posted by TexasReb

I read that book about Bundy you referred to, and will try and find the other you mentioned and reply on it afterwards.

But as to last part and question, well, let me just put it this way. And I promise I am NOT trying to evoke sympathy because of my own experiences. But not long ago my 19 month old grandson was murdered by what the final autopsy indicated was deliberate blunt force trauma and suffocation. The piece of garbage that is charged was found to have a history of child pornography. I wont go too far on this, but to say that yes, I could stick a gun right between his eyes and pull the trigger and say this is for my baby grandson, you sunuvablitch. And then either go eat supper or put my hands behind my back and peacefully surrender to arrest.

BUT, I know that is not the way to handle it. I would rather let the CJ system take its course. Which I am glad includes the death penalty for crimes like this. Although, as an after-thought, in many ways, I might actually prefer the scum spend a life behind bars where, shall we say, even most others don't particularly care for his kind.

Under other circumstances? I can see the point you are making. It is not easy to take a human life, and most of us would have some degree of hesitancy and deep troubled thoughts with it when it came down to pulling the trigger in a firing squad or pulling the trap door or yanking the lever which either injected the lethal dose or the gas.

Still, that is no difference than the choices a soldier in wartime is confronted with, or when someone is confronted with a deadly assault when the choice is kill or be killed. Or a cop on duty has to make and haunts him the rest of his life. None of it is easy, but it is often necessary.

Capital punishment is justice, and not vengeance and for sure not murder. It is the legal response (and catharsis) for the most heineous of crimes.

I'm sorry to hear about this. Is your case one I would have heard on the news? Or does this happen more than you'd think?

[Westerner92]

I have a question along the same lines: Why are many of those who are anti-death penalty pro-choice?

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by Westerner92

I have a question along the same lines: Why are many of those who are anti-death penalty pro-choice?

Why are so many who are pro-life also pro-death penalty?

Its all about branding and being a part of a group. People who are pro-choice can be focused on being liberal or democrats that they follow it all the way. The same is true for the pro-life/pro-death penalty.

[Westerner92]

Originally Posted by LAnative10

Why are so many who are pro-life also pro-death penalty?

Its all about branding and being a part of a group. People who are pro-choice can be focused on being liberal or democrats that they follow it all the way. The same is true for the pro-life/pro-death penalty.

Yeah, I just thought of that after I posted. However, I find the former question way more ironic. Who deserves protection more?

I digress, it was off topic, but I can't help but assume that the question was politically motivated rather than a out of genuine interest.

[TexasReb]

Originally Posted by MimzyMusic

I'm sorry to hear about this. Is your case one I would have heard on the news? Or does this happen more than you'd think?

I appreciate your kind words. It easily could have been MM (as to have read/heard about it). It was in Kansas and the case made national news. I am very hesitant to say too much about it on-line just because it has not been tried yet and thus is no time for me to make too many emotional comments. However, if you want, I will be glad to DM with some web sites giving information. Just let me know!

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by MimzyMusic

Is revenge just part of the culture there? Is it a left-over of the Wild West mentality? Is it their type of Christianity?

Why do New Yorkers love abortion? Is it a left over of hating their parents?

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Westerner92

I have a question along the same lines: Why are many of those who are anti-death penalty pro-choice?

great question: it is ok to kill a helpless baby but not to kill a murderer??

Nita

[alphamale]

Liberal thinking....there's a man found bleeding on the sidewalk, a liberal says "we must find the person who did this, they need help!"

Kill the innocent, regardless of the circumstances. Protect the guilty, regardless of the circumstances.

That's why liberalism is a mental disorder.

[iPwn]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Liberal thinking....there's a man found bleeding on the sidewalk, a liberal says "we must find the person who did this, they need help!"

Kill the innocent, regardless of the circumstances. Protect the guilty, regardless of the circumstances.

That's why liberalism is a mental disorder.

I'm generally anti-abortion too.