Is it true that Texans do not like to be referred to as Southerners? (Houston: crime, luxury)

[Vintage Life]

Originally Posted by Cathy4017

Gotta love it, LOL!

Not too happy with his treatment of the Panhandle, but the rest is pretty spot on!

Agreed! The Panhandle has Palo Duro Canyon . They could have written in something about that.

[Nairobi]

Originally Posted by Cathy4017

Gotta love it, LOL!

Not too happy with his treatment of the Panhandle, but the rest is pretty spot on!

Eh. I thought it was more obnoxious than clever. I know they were going for the whole "dumb East Texan" thing, but damn. I certainly take issue with the state's most culturally diverse and worldly 600 square miles being reduced to a carcinogen cesspool.

I didn't care for that movie anyway.

[Cathy4017]

Originally Posted by Vintage Life

Agreed! The Panhandle has Palo Duro Canyon . They could have written in something about that.

Palo Duro Canyon is on my bucketlist--and one of these days I will make it all the way to the top of the Panhandle. I haven't been farther north than Amarillo--and only once at that.

[Cathy4017]

Originally Posted by Nairobi

Eh. I thought it was more obnoxious than clever. I know they were going for the whole "dumb East Texan" thing, but damn. I certainly take issue with the state's most culturally diverse and worldly 600 square miles being reduced to a carcinogen cesspool.

I didn't care for that movie anyway.

Sure, it was obnoxious, and all of the above!

I've never seen the movie.

[Bike4Life]

We've been well-versed in the school textbooks that we are in the southwest! Don't call me a Southerner - that's the redneck, confederate folks in LA, MS, GA, and SC.

[RMFW]

Ask anyone east of Dallas and they'll tell you Texas is in "the South." Ask anyone west of Fort Worth and they'll tell you Texas is in the Southwest. Ask anyone from Austin and they'll nervously change the subject to how progressive the Hill Country is.

[Nairobi]

Originally Posted by Bike4Life

We've been well-versed in the school textbooks that we are in the southwest! Don't call me a Southerner - that's the redneck, confederate folks in LA, MS, GA, and SC.

Riiiight, because we don't have ANY of those in Texas.

[Huckleberry3911948]

Originally Posted by TexasReb

I realize this is a somewhat separate topic, but what is "regrettable" about it? As in, what was the realistic alternative? To side with the North?

no declare themselves once again a nation and stay out of the war.
a different tact.
the test of the civil war was do we have a right to join a union? and then if we have a right to join a union do we have the right to leave a union?. if not then its not a union--- its a gang. and it is acting more like a gang day by day.

[TexasReb]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

no declare themselves once again a nation and stay out of the war.
a different tact.
the test of the civil war was do we have a right to join a union? and then if we have a right to join a union do we have the right to leave a union?. if not then its not a union--- its a gang. and it is acting more like a gang day by day.

Glad you brought that up, and it has been addressed before. If Lincoln was willing to use military force to coerce the South back into a Union they (we) no longer wanted to be part of...then even IF Texas had reverted to a status of "nationhood" again, is there any reason at all he would have spared Texas from invasion as well? At the very least, for its own survival as an independent nation, Texas would have had to ally itself with the other states of the South.

Your "option" is simply -- at best -- unrealistic.

And something too, to keep in mind. The vast majority of Texans were first hand from the states of the southeast. They had immediate family there. To believe they would have abandoned them would have been unthinkable.

Now, I agree with you -- if I understand what you are saying -- in that a Union is no longer a Union if it has to be held together by force. Which is one of many reasons why I believe the South had the best constitutional arguments on its (our) side.

[jencam]

Originally Posted by TexasReb

No, few native Texans would object to being referred to as Southerners or of Texas being part of the South.

The qualification though? Is that most Texans consider themselves/ourselves a seperate and unique breed of Southerners. TEXANS, as it is.

Yup!