Relocation from NYC to Texas: Houston, Dallas, or Austin? (Spring: movies, salary)

[artsyguy]

I know there is much more class, nicer cars, and fashion sense in North Texas: it's a massively good culture shock going from Austin into North Texas.

Originally Posted by eepstein

I know it well. Go there regularly. Yes, there is a CRU bar there as well, but the crowd is very different. Way less sophisticated in Austin than up in Plano. Also, it's a carmans dream up there! Mercedes, Bimmers, Porsches, and even Bentleys all over the place up there. THat whole Legacy north plano area is FILLED with nice cars. Dang, it's almost like being back in the bay area!!

[artsyguy]

I totally agree with this analysis because I have been to Arkansas and Austin suburbs and overall Austin culture is just as slow, backwoods, Christian, and racist.

Originally Posted by eepstein

Let me tell you, that rural Mississippi and Arkansas have nothing on the Austin burbs. Truly a perfect combination of ultra religious, gas guzzlin, gun totin hillbillies!!!
And people ask WHY I goto Dallas 5 or 6 times per year.

[feconi]

Originally Posted by artsyguy

I totally agree with this analysis because I have been to Arkansas and Austin suburbs and overall Austin culture is just as slow, backwoods, Christian, and racist.

Wow, what a shock! You agree with eepstein's mindless Austin bashing.

These things are exactly true for the culture of Dallas, Houston, and anywhere else in Texas. Indeed, Dallas easily beats out the other Texas metros for being the most Christian.

Originally Posted by artsyguy

I know there is much more class, nicer cars, and fashion sense in North Texas: it's a massively good culture shock going from Austin into North Texas.

The only real "culture shock" between the two cities is due to the differences in size and amenities (i.e., the obvious jump from a mid-sized metropolitan area to a very large one).

As usual, you make a mockery of Dallas--this time for pretending it is a progressive, vibrant fashion mecca.

Despite eepstein's purposefully false comments, there are plenty of "classy," wealthy people with nice cars in Austin. On any per capita or per household basis, Austin has the wealthiest metropolitan area in the state (see: Dallas-Ft. Worth or just the Dallas side of DFW versus Austin). You just find more of these things in Dallas because it's a much larger city.

INdeed, you find a lot more superficial people in Dallas; "fake" and "superficial" are enduring trademarks of Dallas. Perhaps this is an element of the culture shock you speak of...

[cBach]

Glad to see the numbers don't lie, Austin is leading the tally by quite large margins...

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by Lakewooder

If he's looking for big city amenities plus the vibe of Austin then he would do well to go to the cooler neighborhoods of Dallas or Houston. I don't know if you can really say this about Montrose or the Heights in Houston, but when you are in North Oak Cliff or East Dallas/Lakewood, you get very localized and tend to forget that you are in one of the largest metros in the nation.

I would say more Heights than Montrose. Montrose gets too much auto traffic and has too many big buildings and stores.

but I agree, I would go for a more hip hood in a big city than go with Austin. Just too few amenities in Austin.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by cmacemm

Yeah but you still fail to see our points. DALLAS AND HOUSTON HAVE BIGGER ALTERNATIVE SCENES THAN AUSTIN!!! WE JUST HAVE BIGGER POPULATIONS TO WHERE THEY BLEND IN MORE. AS I SAID, I HAVE LIVED IN AUSTIN. I DIDN'T WANNA BASH ON AUSTIN BUT IT'S A BUNCH OF TALK. YOU MOVE THERE, THINK IT WILL BE GREAT, THEN YOU GET THERE AND REALIZE IT SUCKS. IT'S FULL OF FAKE HIPPIES THAT WEAR TOM'S, DRIVE SUV'S BUT STILL KEEP THEIR FIXED GEARS HANDY FOR THOSE WEEKLY GROUP RIDES. AUSTIN=FAKE

^^^^^ those were my observations as well

its like two people going to see a movie that was good but not super. One never hearing anything about it and the other heard 100 people talk about it and 70 of the 100 saying how super it was.

The first one would probably come out saying it was indeed a good movie while the second would come out of it still waiting for the super parts.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by feconi

1. Houston Hobby: 8.6 million
2. Austin-Bergstrom: 8.3 million
3. Dallas Love: 7.5 million

Originally Posted by feconi

"Nice try?" No, my post served its purpose successfully--to debunk what Htownlove said.

Actually you didn't debunk anything. I may have over estimated Love Airport by a lil, but your stats clearly show the secondary airport in Houston having a larger number than the primary airport in Austin. Nice try but you only provided stats to back up my point.

[love roses]

Originally Posted by hamiltonpl

You've received good advice -- don't expect it to be like NYC. There is nothing approaching that density any city in Texas.

I think you would be happy in any of the cities. Houston and Dallas are much larger than Austin, but their downtowns do go to sleep after dark and on the weekends -- kind of like Wall Street. Austin's downtown is more lively, but there is less to do in general in the city -- and it is geared for the college crowd. Houston and Dallas are more refined, where Austin is more laid back, outdoorsy and unashamedly unrefined.

In Dallas and Houston you will have to look just outside of downtown proper for the action, but both cities still have urban environments 10 minutes from downtown in the central city where you go to party. In Houston it is Midtown, the Galleria and Montrose. In Dallas it is Uptown, Oak Lawn and Knox-Henderson-Greenville. They are in the shadows of the skyscrapers and most outsiders would consider it "downtown" even though the city dwellers think differently. Most of the buildings are 2 to 20 stories in those areas. Not suburban, but not strictly the downtown financial districts either.

This Great despcription!

[cBach]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

^^^^^ those were my observations as well

its like two people going to see a movie that was good but not super. One never hearing anything about it and the other heard 100 people talk about it and 70 of the 100 saying how super it was.

The first one would probably come out saying it was indeed a good movie while the second would come out of it still waiting for the super parts.

And Houston would be comparable to people saying it's an average C+ movie but not thrilling, and 70 out of 100 came out saying that. Then, you go see the movie and the first one comes out saying the movie was ok (C+) but the second one comes out saying it was worse than even what they could have imagined (F).

I'd get bored within a month or so of living in Houston. I'd be longing for the Town Lake Trail to jog on, Barton Springs, and the Hill Country. I'd miss being able to get a drink outside at the Oasis overlooking the lake or eating at Hula Hut along the river. I'd even miss Rudy's (no Rudy's in Houston).

[love roses]

Originally Posted by feconi

If I told you we have a Ginger Man here in downtown Austin, would it ruin the experience for you? (With the benefit, of course, that it's not in Plano.)

And surprise!! There's one in Houston too