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Yes don't let facts or objectiveness cloud your judgement. Houston's plans are actually pretty good especially since it plans to build 65 rail stations in it's denser residential areas with the densest employment centers. These stations would be connected to the slowly expanding Park&Ride system that would reach the suburbs and connected to the overall bus system. Houston already has an effective grade separated HOV network that feeds buses and carpoolers (and those that break the law) into the core from every major radial highway. Houston downtown has ~37% of the work commute by transit and the Medical Center is 28%. Uptown and Greenway Plaza around 7% and 5%, which could certainly benefit from rail service. Naturally, focusing on the rail in the core is the next move.
Check out this informative pdf about Houston transit and growth:
Houston Tomorrow
Once its done, that will be great and we can revisit who has the better public transport. But for now, I think Dallas has a better system due to the rail lines that currently exist. Dallas is also expanding and should only get better.
10-23-2011, 10:48 AM
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Dallas has a better rail system, but overall it's crap. Houston will cover less miles in a smaller area, but will have a much larger impact and be more significant.
It's not about the mileage or how far rail travels; it's how useful and efficient it is. I see not future planning with the way Dallas is building rail. As usual Dallas is all about show, but no substance.
It's obvious Dallasites don't know rail works, but how Dallas is building it especially using LRT as a commuter train and than having the audacity to pass it off and brag as if it's really amazing is hilarious to me.
10-23-2011, 10:53 AM
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Dallas has a better rail system, but overall it's crap. Houston will cover less miles in a smaller area, but will have a much larger impact and be more significant.
It's not about the mileage or how far rail travels; it's how useful and efficient it is. I see not future planning with the way Dallas is building rail. As usual Dallas is all about show, but no substance.
It's obvious Dallasites don't know rail works, but how Dallas is building it especially using LRT as a commuter train and than having the audacity to pass it off and brag as if it's really amazing is hilarious to me.
Dallas has to deal with more special interests, which is a shame. Plano and Irving complain that they have no rail, so they demand that rail be built in their town instead of Dallas building more in downtown, which was already planned to be built by now. Houston has a better political situation because it is the alpha city in its area. In Dallas, we have to build farther out because those DART member cities threatened to stop paying into DART if they didn't immediately receive rail. It's not about style over substance.
No public transportation system builds for style. Instead, it's about politics. I wish it wasn't that way. It's short sighted. But it's reality.
10-23-2011, 12:36 PM
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Dallas has a better rail system, but overall it's crap. Houston will cover less miles in a smaller area, but will have a much larger impact and be more significant.
It's not about the mileage or how far rail travels; it's how useful and efficient it is. I see not future planning with the way Dallas is building rail. As usual Dallas is all about show, but no substance.
It's obvious Dallasites don't know rail works, but how Dallas is building it especially using LRT as a commuter train and than having the audacity to pass it off and brag as if it's really amazing is hilarious to me.
exactly.
Most systems have intensive rail in the core, with convenient stops to many areas of interest and have commuter rail out to different satellites. Dallas has that those strings before concentrating out on the burbs and then they are bragging about it.
They say that the other cities would not have Dallas having rail or else they will stop supporting, well that just shows you how Houston has a superior set up. The Burbs will get rail when they get it, in the mean time they have to shut up and make due with the express buses and park and rides.
As of the 1st quarter of 2011 DART had a ridership of 1016 boardings per mile. Houston's ridership during the same period was 4760. That placed Dallas as the 23 highest ridership per mile while Houston placed second.
with 1/10th the mileage Houston has half the riders of DART. It is clear that when the University line opens Houston would have more total riders with 1/6th the miles. That just shows how better implemented Houston rail is
When it comes to Bus Ridership Houston's is at 222K while Dallas is at 116K. Even San ANtonio is higher at 130K.
So Houston's Rail Ridership per mile is 4 times that of Dallas and the Bus ridership is twice that of Dallas.
Austin's commuter rail system is improving Ridership, their Daily ridership numbers have doubled to 1600, but that is still far lower than CR in DFW.
Overall Transit usage in TX:
1. Houston- 271K riders per day
2. DFW - 196 K (Including TRE)
3. San Antonio- 134K
4. Austin- 120K
5. El Paso - 49K
6. Corpus -22K
7. Lubbock- 18K
10-23-2011, 01:34 PM
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wow,
in 1998 DART's ridership was 211,000 in 2011 the Ridership is 196,000??? Despite adding 1,500,000 people to the metro since 1998 and spending Billions of tax payers money to add zillions of miles of rail, DART acyually dropped in ridership numbers????
This is the same rail system that you guys are arguing is so top notch:
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Dallas Area Rapid Transit must cut jobs and scrap nearly all rail expansion plans for the next 20 years , agency executives told board members Tuesday, citing discouraging revenue forecasts.
Plans for a second light-rail line in downtown Dallas, until now scheduled to open in 2016, will no longer be funded and are likely to be scrapped unless other money can be found. The line has a projected cost of $505 million to $820 million.
"At $100 million a mile for light rail, I see little additional 'conventional light rail' in DART's future." The city and DART will probably have to focus on more affordable modes of transportation, including cheaper types of rail and, for places like downtown Dallas, streetcars.
Money woes will force DART to cut jobs, rail plans | Dallas-Fort Worth Transportation News - News for Dallas, Texas - The Dallas Morning News
Sorry, but the University line alone will come near to matching DARTS total ridership. Dallas needs to learn from Houston and stop doing everything OTT
10-23-2011, 04:52 PM
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I don't think you've been paying attention. There have been nearly $3 billion in TOD projects in Dallas. Three billion dollars is "not occurring?"
I'll keep the Jersey jokes to myself.
3 Billion , thats nothing.....in this region over the past 10 years there's been 270 Billion in Smart Growth..... 3 Billion is a drop in the bucket , an average city had at least 15 Billion of projects underway per year.
10-24-2011, 10:41 AM
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3 Billion , thats nothing.....in this region over the past 10 years there's been 270 Billion in Smart Growth..... 3 Billion is a drop in the bucket , an average city had at least 15 Billion of projects underway per year.
Can you show me a source for that? The entire budget of the state of New Jersey is $29 billion. So you're saying that your town had over half the state budget in Transit Oriented Developments alone? And that the
average city in New Jersey had half the state budget for Transit Oriented Developments every year?
Please show me where Washington Township, New Jersey had $15 billion per year in Transit Oriented Developments. I've searched the internet for a source, but I can't find one.
I'm sure that the northeast has had more transit oriented developments. But I think Dallas developers have done a pretty good job in developing TODs, which was a completely foreign idea in Texas. New Jersey may have more TODs to begin with, since mass transit has been more popular there for over 100 years.
As of 2009, Dallas had invested $8 billion in TODs. Not $3 billion.
DART.org - DART Economic Impact
10-24-2011, 01:51 PM
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You can think Dallas is tops in PT the number of riders and ridership per mile tells a different story.
and FYI Houston is the one with more options. don't know what la la land you are living in.
with Rail, Bus, Park and Ride, Express Service, Rapid Route, and other options we definitely trump y'all in options.
You are sitting there calling people bias and I am sure your butt hasn't been on PT around the State. I at least know have been on them in the bigger cities. You sit on your computer and say "lets see which one is longer" get on the darn thing before make judgments.
I don't know where your getting this assumption that I haven't used public transportation from but rest assured that I have ridden in all major cities throughout the state including both Houston and Dallas and then some smaller ones. You are correct, DART does span a wider area but that is irrelevant to me and wasn't even evaluated in my conclusion. The way I see it this is what really matters: 1. Accessibility 2. The amount of
relevant and important destinations the transportation system can take you to 3. Ease of Use 4. Transit Options
BTW, I can assure you I don't spend as much time on the computer making judgements, another assumption by your part. If number of posts posted and read is any indication of that, it would seem that this was you not me. I would be less than 2% of what you do
.And finally with all these assumptions how can I honestly take you serious on anything you say. That is not a question.
10-24-2011, 02:15 PM
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I don't know where your getting this assumption that I haven't used public transportation from but rest assured that I have ridden in all major cities throughout the state including both Houston and Dallas and then some smaller ones. You are correct, DART does span a wider area but that is irrelevant to me and wasn't even evaluated in my conclusion. The way I see it this is what really matters: 1. Accessibility 2. The amount of relevant and important destinations the transportation system can take you to 3. Ease of Use 4. Transit Options
and if you used systems outside DFW you would see that Houston wins in all 4 of these categories.
The stops are in easilly accessible higer population areas.
All relevant and important destinations are served.
The system is easy to use because of our layout and we have the most options.
Like I said, don't just sit there looking at miles and thinking yours is better.
10-24-2011, 03:32 PM
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Once its done, that will be great and we can revisit who has the better public transport. But for now, I think Dallas has a better system due to the rail lines that currently exist. Dallas is also expanding and should only get better.
Well I would think ridership would reflect this.
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Most Common Occupations - Health diagnosing and treating practitioners and other technical occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Health technologists and technicians (%)
Most Common Occupations - Service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)