Do You Observe Cinco de Mayo? (Edna: live in, to eat, homosexual)

[crankywithakeyboard]

Originally Posted by justme02

Considering its not even really celebrated in Mexico, I don't celebrate it here. September 16 is the holiday celebrated in Mexico not Cinco de Mayo.

Cinco de Mayo has evolved into a holiday where white people have an excuse to get drunk on margaritas. . That and as a marketing campaign for businesses.

Seems nobody of any race around here really needs an excuse to get drunk.

[doctorjef]

@Metro Matt-- it's dubious to assert that Cinco de Mayo was dreamed by Mexican-Americans in California during the American Civil War. For starters, the victory of the Battle of Puebla didn't occur until May 5, 1862, and the Maxmillian regime wasn't finally driven from power until May 1867. I rather doubt that organised celebrations of Puebla started during the US Civil War, since the victory at Puebla was then both too recent and actually not definitive, as it took five more years for Maxmillian to be overthrown, after the French finally removed their forces from Mexico. Further, unlike Texas, California had very few Hispanics living in its borders at the time. Mexican immigration to California is a far more recent phenomenon than the long history of Mexican settlement in Texas, predating Texas independence. California was neglected by both Spain and Mexico. There were some missions and garrisons but no real permanent settlement in CA during Spanish and Mexican rule -- quite unlike Texas and unlike the area of New Mexico that had been settled since the 16th Century.

I don't get this "I'm white so I don't celebrate Cinco de Mayo" -- sounds a very racialist (note: "racialist", not "racist") way of putting it; in contrast to saying something like, "Not being of Mexican ancestry, I don't celebrate it". However, as I've already pointed out at length in previous posts, the historical events surrounding Cinco de Mayo are, in fact, quite relevant both to US history and to the history of the CSA (for rather opposite reasons), and hence of interest to Americans who know that US history is to do with more than just the Pilgrims, 1776, and the "War Between the States".

And yes, Hispanics are now all over Texas and indeed all over most of the USA, but Austin has a lot of Hispanic consciousness and obviously South Texas even more so. I don't think the same can be said of most other parts of Texas, with the exception of some of the Trans-Pecos (El Paso, specifically).

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by doctorjef

@Metro Matt-- it's dubious to assert that Cinco de Mayo was dreamed by Mexican-Americans in California during the American Civil War. For starters, the victory of the Battle of Puebla didn't occur until May 5, 1862, and the Maxmillian regime wasn't finally driven from power until May 1867. I rather doubt that organised celebrations of Puebla started during the US Civil War, since the victory at Puebla was then both too recent and actually not definitive, as it took five more years for Maxmillian to be overthrown, after the French finally removed their forces from Mexico. Further, unlike Texas, California had very few Hispanics living in its borders at the time. Mexican immigration to California is a far more recent phenomenon than the long history of Mexican settlement in Texas, predating Texas independence. California was neglected by both Spain and Mexico. There were some missions and garrisons but no real permanent settlement in CA during Spanish and Mexican rule -- quite unlike Texas and unlike the area of New Mexico that had been settled since the 16th Century.

I don't get this "I'm white so I don't celebrate Cinco de Mayo" -- sounds a very racialist (note: "racialist", not "racist") way of putting it; in contrast to saying something like, "Not being of Mexican ancestry, I don't celebrate it". However, as I've already pointed out at length in previous posts, the historical events surrounding Cinco de Mayo are, in fact, quite relevant both to US history and to the history of the CSA (for rather opposite reasons), and hence of interest to Americans who know that US history is to do with more than just the Pilgrims, 1776, and the "War Between the States".

And yes, Hispanics are now all over Texas and indeed all over most of the USA, but Austin has a lot of Hispanic consciousness and obviously South Texas even more so. I don't think the same can be said of most other parts of Texas, with the exception of some of the Trans-Pecos (El Paso, specifically).

True

The further south you go in Texas the more Hispanic it gets, but you seemed to want to point out that Tyler & all of East Texas is some how lacking in that department till I pointed out to you we are over 21% Hispanic here in the sticks.

At 35.1% Austin falls short of the average 37.8% Hispanic population of Texas.

[ScoPro]

The City of Austin & it's media make a big fuss about the Cinco thing, but darn near ignore Texas Independence Day.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by SVTRay

Say again?

Cinco De Mayo is heavily celebrated by people of Mexican decent here in the US. I can't remember a time where I have observed white people Celebrating Cinco De Mayo.

Never been to Uptown Dallas? What about Austin?

Mexico doesnt even celebrate Cinco de Mayo. Its a much bigger deal in America.

[txstate]

Si with margaritas and enchiladas in Pearland thanks to Don Picos off 518.

[ScoPro]

My family doesn't need a conjured up holiday to wash our enchiladas down with good margaritas.

[doctorjef]

I don't think it's entirely true that the are no Cinco de Mayo celebrations anywhere in Mexico, but Diez y Seis de Septiembre is a far, far bigger national holiday as Mexico's independence day.

I'm sure that Cinco de Mayo is celebrated, for one thing, in Puebla itself. However, the whole episode of the French Intervention should be rather embarrassing to Mexico. Puebla did show that the Mexicans were capable of winning a major military engagement against a supposedly disciplined, modern European force. Napoleon III was an arse, whose reign rightly ended in 1870 after he got France involved in the disastrous Franco-Prussian War, being replaced by the Third Republic and the permanent end of monarchy in France.

[wehotex]

Originally Posted by TexasReb

Hello Fellow Texans,

I haven't started a poll in a long time...but this morning I am in rare form! LOL Not only one poll, but two (the other will follow!).

Anyway, with all the hoopla about Cinco-De-Maya, I am wondering how many out there really make a big production about it all? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against it at all...beyond the fact that it seems ever more forced upon us to rank it right up there with Texas Independence Day.

Anyway, thoughts and opinions...?

It is an invention of the bar/tavern owners, beer and tequila companies to make some extra $$ off of the celebrating public. Nothing more, nothing less.

[amexicano]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

I went out to a Tex-Mex restaurant with the family & asked our young Mexican waitress what it meant & low & behold she didn't even know she had to ask someone else & the person who told her said it was Mexico's independance from Spain!

That said, I never celebrate Cinco De Mayo 1. because I am White & 2. because I usually forget all about it every year.

Are you sure she was Mexican?