Is there any part of Texas where it isn't real humid?

[gmc41]

Thank you Two4damoney..Tucson has the monsoon season which was a nice break from the heat..and it sure did get cold which is normal for a desert but it wasnt as bad as NY was..and if you have proper heating, that helps too

Thank you CaptnRn. for the charts..I have looked up MANY places thru data-city and am surprised I havent joined years ago..I was just getting confused so thought Id ask people that would know.

I wonder if with the record heat and fires if it would be worth it, but everywhere you go has something..Perhaps Im asking for too tall an order...the main issue is my limited income, otherwise Id be in southern CA. Thanks everyone

[Cathy4017]

Originally Posted by gmc41

Thank you Two4damoney..Tucson has the monsoon season which was a nice break from the heat..and it sure did get cold which is normal for a desert but it wasnt as bad as NY was..and if you have proper heating, that helps too

Thank you CaptnRn. for the charts..I have looked up MANY places thru data-city and am surprised I havent joined years ago..I was just getting confused so thought Id ask people that would know.

I wonder if with the record heat and fires if it would be worth it, but everywhere you go has something..Perhaps Im asking for too tall an order...the main issue is my limited income, otherwise Id be in southern CA. Thanks everyone

Tucson? Just out of curiosity, what do you consider cold?

[gmc41]

To Cathy4017

To me anything under 55-60 is cold..under 40-45 is painful..When I lived in Tucson, in one apartment, my heater was in the living room and didnt do much for the rest of the place...I'd wear long johns, a tank top, tshirt, sweatshirt, 2 layers of socks, a hat and gloves to bed which had 4-5 layers of blankets,,PLUS I had my big dog to snuggle with..If there was central heat/air it wouldnt be so bad.. When in NY where I lived had furnaces, but walking outside and having my lungs freeze for 7-9 months was miserable. Plus it was always cloudy there..
the desert does get darn cold!! I went to visit once and left NY with a temp of 55 and landed in Tucson which was 20...

[Cathy4017]

Originally Posted by gmc41

To Cathy4017

To me anything under 55-60 is cold..under 40-45 is painful..When I lived in Tucson, in one apartment, my heater was in the living room and didnt do much for the rest of the place...I'd wear long johns, a tank top, tshirt, sweatshirt, 2 layers of socks, a hat and gloves to bed which had 4-5 layers of blankets,,PLUS I had my big dog to snuggle with..If there was central heat/air it wouldnt be so bad.. When in NY where I lived had furnaces, but walking outside and having my lungs freeze for 7-9 months was miserable. Plus it was always cloudy there..
the desert does get darn cold!! I went to visit once and left NY with a temp of 55 and landed in Tucson which was 20...

Well, in the more dry areas of Texas, it WILL be colder than that. If you were wearing long johns in Tucson (which doesn't get as cold as the desert areas of Texas do most years), you'd do the same in West Texas or the Panhandle (the only relatively dry areas of the state). There are times when the night temps drop into the teens in both areas.

The more humidity there is, the less the range of day to night temperatures. For a more temperate climate (such as the Texas lower Rio Grande Valley) where it doesn't freeze that often, you're going to have to put up with more humidity. But even places like Brownsville can dip into the high 30s in the winter.

[CptnRn]

Originally Posted by Cathy4017

IIRC = "If I recall correctly..." and yes, I was addressing you.

The demographics, politics, scenery and some of the weather in WY really appeal to me, and if it weren't so far from home and family, I'd be up there in a heartbeat. Not sure I could stand the worst part of the winter, though.

I really think that a couple of the posters on this thread should spend part of a summer in any part of Texas before they make the decision to put down roots there. Having grown up in dry WT, it amazes me that I tolerated heat like that when I was younger, dry notwithstanding!

Can't handle it now, and even if I come home, I won't be spending June-mid-September there.

Likewise you should spend part of January in Wyoming before you decide to move there, and keep in mind that winter is 9 months long up there.

To the OP you should read this thread before focusing on Midland - Odessa //www.city-data.com/forum/texas...cult-rent.html

Marfa, TX is another small town near Alpine that has low humidity, low cost of living and a artist community, that would be worth considering. //www.city-data.com/city/Marfa-Texas.html http://www.marfacc.com/

[Cathy4017]

Originally Posted by CptnRn

Likewise you should spend part of January in Wyoming before you decide to move there, and keep in mind that winter is 9 months long up there.

To the OP you should read this thread before focusing on Midland - Odessa //www.city-data.com/forum/texas...cult-rent.html

Marfa, TX is another small town near Alpine that has low humidity, low cost of living and a artist community, that would be worth considering. //www.city-data.com/city/Marfa-Texas.html The Official Marfa, Texas Chamber of Commerce Website

I ruled WY out because it's so far, but I do plan to spend some summers up there at some point. I also might spend part of a winter, just to see what severely cold weather really is--I haven't been in anything colder than -20.

I don't think native Texans have any real idea of just how severely cold it has to be up there. They see only the relatively pleasant summers.

But we do know about heat, unfortunately.

As far as Marfa goes, the low cost does NOT apply to buying housing. The prices in both Alpine and Marfa are out of sight. In Marfa, it's hard to find something decent that isn't next to a junker.

[CptnRn]

Originally Posted by Cathy4017

I ruled WY out because it's so far, but I do plan to spend some summers up there at some point. I also might spend part of a winter, just to see what severely cold weather really is--I haven't been in anything colder than -20.

I don't think native Texans have any real idea of just how severely cold it has to be up there. They see only the relatively pleasant summers.

But we do know about heat, unfortunately.

As far as Marfa goes, the low cost does NOT apply to buying housing. The prices in both Alpine and Marfa are out of sight. In Marfa, it's hard to find something decent that isn't next to a junker.

In many parts of Wyoming it is not just the extreme cold that gets you but also the high wind speeds. I walked around a corner once in Casper, Wyoming and when I braced against the wind that hit me, it literally blew me a good 10' down the icy sidewalk. Check out this wind map.

http://www.windpoweringamerica.gov/i...wy_50m_800.jpg


In regard to Alpine and Marfa, it is almost always that case with small towns that there is a limited housing stock, but I'm surprised to hear you say housing is expensive there. City-Data seems to indicate it is low, although they say their data is from 2009.

Median gross rent in 2009: $500.

Read more: //www.city-data.com/city/Marfa-...#ixzz2D4sWMeh9
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Median house or condo value / Median gross rent:
Texas $125,800 / ?
Marfa $98,609 / $500
Alpine $92,155 / $543
Odessa $100,500 / $745
Midland $130,600 / $861
Kerrville $134,370 / $684
Fredericksburg $195,313 / $784

[Cathy4017]

Yep, WY does have a well-earned reputation for high winds that blow pretty often! WT can get pretty bad, but I imagine WY is worse. Like heat/humidity, the combination of high wind and extreme cold is hard.

I guess it depends on what you want as far as housing goes. I have been looking in Alpine/Marfa/FD off and on since 2010, and the nicer 3BR/2BA/2 car garage homes with greater than 1500 sq ft are expensive compared to Midland (forget for the moment that Midland and Odessa are booming right now. I'm talking average non-boom prices.

For what you get, I consider Alpine extremely expensive in all categories. I didn't find anything I'd live in that was under $225K.

But I'm most likely headed that way before long. It's either Alpine/FD or I stay where I am. To get what I want, I'm going to have to build. :-( I'd have to do so much to an existing property that it's not worth it. We're talking extensive remodeling, and all factors considered, I found it just as expensive as building new in most cases, depending on the area.

You look at Midland/Odessa (again, average non-boom), San Angelo, Fort Stockton, Del Rio, Ozona.....Alpine and Marfa (except for junkers and fixer-uppers) are more $$$ overall. Scarcity and supply/demand definitely determine the prices.

[TX75007]

Originally Posted by hoffdano

What do you think is humid? Where have you been that you thought it was humid?

Texas is less humid than the east coast. It is less humid than the gulf coast, though Houston is not much different from New Orleans.

Austin's summer climate starts in the morning with a fair amount of humidity and finishes the day around 45%. Most of Texas is less humid than Atlanta for example. Dallas is about the same.
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Austin is West of the dryline and is drier than the DFW area. Austin gets less rain than Dallas too. Dallas is humid. Dewpoints over 60 degrees is considered humid and DFW has that much of the summer.

Amarillo and points North are dry and most of the time the weather is pleasant. They do get a few blizzards each year, but its usually over the next day. Lubbock is a bit warmer but being a college town, it has more to do and a better medical establishment.

There is no income Tax in TX. For those on fixed incomes which is taxed in many other states, then that can be a plus. Rural counties have MUCH lower property taxes than the bigger towns. If you carefully look at tax rates, and don't mind living 20 miles out of town, you can cut your tax bill in half.

If AZ is being considered, then Sedona, Prescott, and Flagstaff come to mind.

[TexasReb]

Originally Posted by TX75007

Austin is West of the dryline and is drier than the DFW area. Austin gets less rain than Dallas too. Dallas is humid. Dewpoints over 60 degrees is considered humid and DFW has that much of the summer.

Actually, Austin falls into the "sub-humid sub-tropical" area of Texas, and not far from "humid-subtropical". Here is a good map of the state in terms of climatical ranges.

The Climate of Texas