08-28-2012, 01:21 PM
Location: Austin, TX
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But it is damned close to crappy for the Cowboys.
Pretty much true - the Cowboys being average is considered crappy by most of their fans, fair or not.
08-28-2012, 01:30 PM
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the whorns are the only professional team in town. and no salary cap to deal with.
08-28-2012, 02:03 PM
Location: Fort Worth
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hoffdano
Uh......isn't it "crappy" by Cowboys standards not to make the playoffs? It really doesn't matter whether it was one play or not.
Well thank you for at least
aknowledging that, finally.
Still, doesn't excuse some of the other comments about the Cowboys from Texan fans here...
08-28-2012, 02:52 PM
Location: san francisco
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mark311
d there is no rivalry at all between Cowboys/Texans.
This is not true at all. There is a rivalry between the two teams and one thing can't be denied is that the Cowboys have had the upper hand in their match-ups. And every time they both play there is much competition.
The only thing is that the rivalry is not prevalent in Austin, only if you go to Houston or Dallas. And one thing I know the Cowboys are very much hated in Houston, especially telling from all my friends on facebook who live in Houston.
The funny thing is though that my brother and bro-in-law who are huge Texans fans are also Cowboys fans. But this probably rarely happens.
08-28-2012, 02:59 PM
Location: Austin, TX/London, UK
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thomas2029
The old rivalry with tu is just that...an old rivalry.
You know Tulane isn't in the SEC anymore right?
08-28-2012, 03:00 PM
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migol84
And one thing I know the Cowboys are very much hated in Houston, especially telling from all my friends on facebook who live in Houston.
Well if that's the case, aren't the Cowboys hated everywhere else as well? They're definitely a love them or hate them team. They still have that "America's Team" or "God's team" reputation that basically doesn't sit well with a fan of any other NFL team in the country. I don't think that it's a specific rivalry with the Texans. It's also annoying to fans of other teams as to why people just "adopted" the Cowboys as their team in the 90's even though they had no ties to Dallas or Texas. I'm sure some Aggies will make this same argument about Longhorn fans as well. I understand their frustration in that regard.
08-28-2012, 03:14 PM
Location: Fort Worth
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migol84
This is not true at all. There is a rivalry between the two teams and one thing can't be denied is that the Cowboys have had the upper hand in their match-ups. And every time they both play there is much competition.
No... there isn't. There is NO rivalry between the Cowboys and Texans.
I can assure you, that same hatred you're talking about in Houston for the Cowboys is virtually non-existant here in DFW for the Texans. In fact, I don't know one single Cowboy fan here who even
thinks about the Texans, let alone hates them. Three games in the span of 10 years (against a team that's only been around 10 years) does NOT make a rivalry. Rivalries are built through several years and decades of hard fought games and big moments. They're not made up just because a certain fanbase doesn't like the other team. TCU/Boise State is more of a rivalry than Cowboys/Texans and even
that , you could barely call a rivalry. The Giants, the Eagles, the Redskins, the Steelers, the 49ers, the Packers, the Cardinals.... THOSE are our rivals. Not the Texans.
God, we've been over this a million times with just Metro Matt alone....
08-28-2012, 03:27 PM
Location: Tysons Corner, VA by way of TEXAS
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JJG
No... there isn't. There is NO rivalry between the Cowboys and Texans. thinks about the Texans, let alone hates them. Three games in the span of 10 years (against a team that's only been around 10 years) does NOT make a rivalry. Rivalries are built through several years and decades of hard fought games and big moments. They're not made up just because a certain fanbase doesn't like the other team. TCU/Boise State is more of a rivalry than Cowboys/Texans and even that , you could barely call a rivalry. The Giants, the Eagles, the Redskins, the Steelers, the 49ers, the Packers, the Cardinals.... THOSE are our rivals. Not the Texans.
I wouldn't call it a rivalry on the terms of the Cowboys-Eagles, Cowboys-Skins, etc. but I don't think it can be denied that there's a little extra juice when the Cowboys and the Texans play, especially from the Texans side. It's more about state bragging rights.
It's kind of like how there's no real rivalry between the Eagles and Steelers, but when they play it's amped up for the same reason. I know Texans fans get wayyyy up for Cowboys games, but I'm pretty sure the Cowboys don't treat playing the Texans like they would treat playing the Rams, for example.
I don't think either team takes too kindly to getting beaten by the other, no matter what DFW-area Dallas fans say. I'm pretty sure they didn't like the 02 expansion-team loss and we sure didn't like the 06 and 2010 losses.
Not a rivalry, but not a regular game when these two play either.
08-28-2012, 03:39 PM
Location: ITL (Houston)
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majicdonjuan
I wouldn't call it a rivalry on the terms of the Cowboys-Eagles, Cowboys-Skins, etc. but I don't think it can be denied that there's a little extra juice when the Cowboys and the Texans play, especially from the Texans side. It's more about state bragging rights.
They definitely don't. When they play each other, DFW sports riders always put out articles about Houston and the "inferiority complex" and in the past their radio hosts would make fun of the Texans. The number of Texans fans in Tue state has definitely grown. They can either take a huge step back (not making the playoffs or one and done), or make huge inroads (conference championship or better) this season.
08-28-2012, 03:41 PM
Location: Fort Worth
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majicdonjuan
I wouldn't call it a rivalry on the terms of the Cowboys-Eagles, Cowboys-Skins, etc. but I don't think it can be denied that there's a little extra juice when the Cowboys and the Texans play, especially from the Texans side . It's more about state bragging rights.
BINGO! Key words: especially from the Texans side. And no offense to Texan fans, but most of us don't even think "state bragging rights" either.
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It's kind of like how there's no real rivalry between the Eagles and Steelers, but when they play it's amped up for the same reason. I know Texans fans get wayyyy up for Cowboys games, but I'm pretty sure the Cowboys don't treat playing the Texans like they would treat playing the Rams, for example.
Here's the difference... both the Eagles and Steelers have been around since 1933.
The Cowboys have been around for more than 50 years, meanwhile, the Texans are
just now in their first full decade of existance. Now if this was the OILERS, then yes, you could make that claim. But until there are more BIG TIME moments between the two or if the Texans get multiple rings, they're not rivals or anything close to it. Instead, they are just two teams that just so happen to play in the same state. When it equally means as much to each fanbase when the two teams play each other, then you could say it's more than just a regular season game.
By the way, the '02 expansion team loss would be a bigger deal if it wasn't in one of the horrid 5-11 Dave Campo era seasons.
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People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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