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Old 12-21-2012, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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The black population in Dallas county went almost totally for Obama yet the county was barely blue. What that means is that the Hispanics broke for Romney and Cruz. The same thing occurred in Harris (City of Houston).

Anyone who thinks TX will turn blue does not know any Hispanics or how assimilation works. Nor have they looked at the election results in the districts where there are significant mixed white/hispanic populations. Nor have they looked at education trends. Kids' views come from their peers. These kids peers will be the white populations.

I speak Spanish pretty well. My babysitter is Hispanic and one tenant is Hispanic. My son's best friend is Hispanic. On one of my farms a caretaker is Tejano. They like Cruz a lot. And they like the Bush family a lot. They fear government.

My wife ran a mid-size firm that had a majority Hispanic workforce. The senior managers were quite liberal, but the rank and file were conservative and the latter had a lot of kids and lived in mixed neighborhoods.

One of my wife's relatives is a major figure in a number of counties in West Texas. He is a major liberal yet he is also a racist, like many rural democrats. Those counties are majority Hispanic yet they broke for Cruz and he told me that once he passes away, along with many of the other older FDR voters, the Hispanic leadership will step up and join the younger GOP leadership and the county will stay solid GOP.

Sounds a lot like the stories the GOP kept telling themselves leading up to Obama trouncing Romney in the presidential election. If Hispanics in Texas are so conservative how to you explain all that Dark Blue in the South Texas counties that are overwhelmingly Hispanic majority? See the County map. President Map - Election 2012 - NYTimes.com

Demographics //www.city-data.com/forum/27406978-post8.html

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Old 12-21-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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Sounds a lot like the stories the GOP kept telling themselves leading up to Obama trouncing Romney in the presidential election. If Hispanics in Texas are so conservative how to you explain all that Dark Blue in the South Texas counties that are overwhelmingly Hispanic majority? See the County map. President Map - Election 2012 - NYTimes.com

Demographics //www.city-data.com/forum/27406978-post8.html
Exactly. The fact is that hispanics vote 70% democratic. The Republican party is going to die out unless they make a significant change to some of their policies.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Best quote I've ever heard:

Hispanics were disillusioned with Barack Obama, but they were absolutely terrified of Mitt Romney".

After looking at some of the things said in the primary, who could blame them?
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Texas Hispanics voted 49% for Bush in 2004, so it is not like they are in bed with the democratic party. Good luck trying to predict politics one year in advance, none the less 4, 8, 12 years.
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Being polite, this thread is laughable to say the least.

Texas does NOT follow Tarrant County & its still as red as ever & will remain this way for the conceivable future.

Dallas County is the only "blue" county in North Texas. The overwhelmingly poor minority populations are the reason why they tend to vote Democratic these days.

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Old 12-22-2012, 02:11 PM
 
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I disagree. Look at the demographics of growth in Tarrant county. Its primarily Hispanic and African American. Statistically speaking, they vote blue more than red by a good margin. In the DFW metroplex, non-Hispanic whites are the slowest growing group. DFW is gaining more Hispanics, African-American, and Asians than whites. Despite notions otherwise, that is going to turn DFW blue over time. Dallas county is already a blue stronghold.

Is the change going to happen overnight? No. Give it another 10 years, you'll see it.
Right, so the changes primarily have to do with demographics. I wouldn't spend my time trying to change the opinions of white Tarrant county voters. They are just as tribal in their ideology as any other voter bloc. Instead, work to increase the voter participation rates of blacks and hispanics who lag in this area.
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Old 12-22-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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RGV being the poorest area of the state might have something to do about. The middle class Hispanics in San Antonio voted for the republicans but they are outnumbered by the poor Hispanics of Bexar county.
Do you have some source for this? That some income level of Hispanics in Texas vote GOP? That's hard for me to believe?
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Old 12-22-2012, 02:21 PM
 
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Exactly. The fact is that hispanics vote 70% democratic. The Republican party is going to die out unless they make a significant change to some of their policies.
You're talking about something that will not occur in the next Decade at the very least. Nativism goes to the heart of the GOP appeal to white voters. If that changes, the GOP will not be the same party. And anybody thinking the GOP can team up with socially conservative hispanics/blacks to form some winning coalition based on punching hippies and gays is just dreaming.
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:31 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Texas Hispanics voted 49% for Bush in 2004, so it is not like they are in bed with the democratic party. Good luck trying to predict politics one year in advance, none the less 4, 8, 12 years.
This article makes some good points:

44 Percent of Hispanics Voted for Bush? | Alternet

It's been long said that Bush gets 40% of the Texas mex-american vote. But there could be some doubt.
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:53 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Being polite, this thread is laughable to say the least.

Texas does NOT follow Tarrant County & its still as red as ever & will remain this way for the conceivable future.

Dallas County is the only "blue" county in North Texas. The overwhelmingly poor minority populations are the reason why they tend to vote Democratic these days.
You just keep thinking that....
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