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Old 02-13-2013, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Eagle, ID
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The wife and I (both California natives) have finally reached the breaking point. For me, it took some time because the political crap that goes on in California doesn't affect me as much in the Orange County area. Most of my neighbors are conservative, the taxes don't kill us because we are not in the rich category (we don't make over $250k), the schools that our kids go to are awesome, and the weather is fantastic. But, the recent election of a supermajority of democrats has me ready to leave. I just read that they are working on a bill that will make me a felon (I have more than 500 rounds of ammo), and are talking about confiscation of legally registered assault weapons. I can't even imagine what is coming over the next few years. Enough is enough.

The wife and I are conservative (although we don't have a problem with those who aren't), I'm a gun owner, and what we want is a good place with good neighbors, and a place to raise a family with three little ones.

I don't want to come off as racist, but realize that I may. Illegal immigration is really causing a problem. It is a severe financial drain on the state, and the hispanic population is exploding. In Ca, it means a much higher percentage of liberal voters, evidenced by the recent election of a democratic supermajority in both Ca government entities. Yikes. It's amazing how those that actually pay the taxes are not viewed as providers or appreciated, but are despised. Very odd. It's not long until those who take vote for another proposition that raises my taxes, like they just did for those that make over $250k a year. Incredible.

What are your honest opinions of where Texas is headed? I've read some internet information that projects Texas to be a purple state by 2020, due to hispanic population growth. If we were to move, I want to make sure we're not heading to someplace that will be like California in my lifetime. We're conservative, family-oriented people who want to fit in, and not change where we end up to be like the place that we are escaping.

I appreciate any honest input, and again, I apologize if I come off wrong. I don't care what race you are if you are a hard-working, family-oriented person who just wants to be left alone. What I don't like are those that expect the government to be a cradle to grave support mechanism, and want me to pay for it.

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Old 02-13-2013, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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There's already a couple of current threads about this in the Texas forum. Historically, a liberal in Texas can usually be considered a conservative by New York standards, the liberal Texan actually being more conservative than the NY conservative.
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:44 PM
 
Location: USA
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There's already a couple of current threads about this in the Texas forum. Historically, a liberal in Texas can usually be considered a conservative by New York standards, the liberal Texan actually being more conservative than the NY conservative.
That's false. You should come talk to me.
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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lol the liberals I know in the Dallas area aren't conservative at all.

As for the main question, I hope Texas continues to moderate it's political climate to keep us from having to deal with future Rick Perry types and those crazy people on the Board of Education.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well Joey, with any luck at all there won'e a blue or purple Texas but an Independent Texas. The US is a doomed nation and only a moron can't see that. With the National debt as high as it is, there's no way out any more, we're going into bankruptcy and quick. Inflation will hit the USA like never before, jobs will evaporate, taxes will be more than double what they are now, and there will be a civil war between States rights and those that think the USA owes them a living. And this is coming soon and maybe as soon as this year. Imagine paying 10 bucks for a gallon of gas or 8 bucks for a loaf of bread. That's what's predicted by the Texas economists. And there is no reason for it except that DC is full of professional politicians that are absolutely clueless....but they manage to have some of the largest personal portfolios in the world, imagine that. We have a new party in Texas that is pushing for independence and it's called the Texas Nationalist Movement, I'm not a member but it's growing daily. Ya see, Texas doesn't need the USA, we can support ourselves which just happens to be an old Texas tradition, rarely will a Texan ask for help. We don't ask others to solve our problems either, that's another Texas tradition. But we have more than enough oil reserves, gas reserves, agriculture, medical research, refineries, lumber, and infrastructure to last this Texas for the next 3000 years. Did you know that Texas produces more wind generated electricity than the entire rest of the earth? We have them going up at the rate of 2 a day 24/7. We have solar farms as well as nuclear energy. We have water both in above ground reservoirs and underground and the Edwards water is the purest in the world. So will Texas be purple? I don't hardly think so. Ya know, if I were full Hispanic, I'd be real pissed at the idiots that want to say that yes it'll be Democratic because of the influx of Mexicans. Do you really think Mexicans are stupid? You think they don't see what's happening in Kalifornia? Come on, give these folks some credit. Not all are wannabe welfare morons. They have their low lifes just like any ethnic group but as a whole, just like any ethnic group, they know what's going on and they have their pride too. If you look at how Texas voted this last election, only the border areas had any Democrat majority and those same counties had over 100% voter participation....as in, like other places around the nation, the ballot boxes were stuffed. But I can only assume that the Democrats are so accustomed to dealing with morons that they thought no one would notice- right!
So the answer for you here is I doubt you see a State of Texas in the future either red or blue but independent. If that sounds like work, yer right. If you want to join in on the best thing that has ever happened to the North American continent, might give it some thought and come on down. But leave the Kalifornia state of mind there. It's not welcome here.
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:29 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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^ So I take it you don't have an ENTER and/or Tab key?
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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There's already a couple of current threads about this in the Texas forum. Historically, a liberal in Texas can usually be considered a conservative by New York standards, the liberal Texan actually being more conservative than the NY conservative.
Even generally speaking, I doubt there's a great deal of truth in that.

I will concede, though, that Texas liberals are likely more religious/spiritual than your typical blue-staters.
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Eagle, ID
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If you want to join in on the best thing that has ever happened to the North American continent, might give it some thought and come on down. But leave the Kalifornia state of mind there. It's not welcome here.
I don't have the Kalifornia stats of mind, which is why I want to get my family out of here.

Texas is looking better and better every day.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Eagle, ID
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I apologize for posting this question, I posted it in a different forum, and didn't realize there were posts like this in the main Texas forum.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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As we Texans are known to say Joey, "Leave now and avoid the rush". You'll need to decide on what and where you want to live. Houston is known to native Texans as the Buthole of Texas as that's where the crap is. Even the water there is foul but you can make more money there than other places. It's a little more liberal than the rest of Texas just because of all of the imports. Austin is close to being the same. Dallas and Ft Worth are good places where the money is better but not equal to Houston. San Antonio is a growing city but lacks wages. You can earn 2-3 times the money in Houston for the same job in San Antonio. Great place if you like a town that's not high on nightlife and usually very conservative but very friendly. Schools in the Northside School district are some of the best in the State. Load up and come on down...and bring yer guns. WE have conceal carry here that requires a license and you can have as much ammo as you want. Our AG has stated that regardless of what the dimwits in DC do, Texans will not have their arms confiscated and any Fed enforcing confiscation will be arrested by Texas Rangers. You don't mess with Texas Rangers. They are the supreme law here. We also have a small army- The Texas National Guard. Not large but they're really good at what they do. You'll find the cost of living extremely cheap as compared to Kalifornia. Might check on the net but I think average house cost in San Antonio is around 125 grand. Houston and DFW will be higher. If you like salt water, there's always Corpus. Economically it's about like San Antonio. We do have an occasional hurricane if moving close to the coast. Rarely do we have earthquakes and if we have any they are so small most never know they happened.
Looks like you need to start researching the destination. It does get hot here. The lower in the State you go the hotter it gets. Laredo has over 45 days of average summer time heat of over 110F for an example. But I would suggest not living too close to the border- drug dealers are the problem.
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