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View Poll Results: Which city will have the best luxury stores by the end of 2013?
Dallas 88 62.86%
Houston 52 37.14%
Voters: 140. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-15-2013, 07:37 AM
 
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Wow.

RIP the notion the Dallas is the best shopping center in Texas.
Ahem . . . people are naive in their understanding of the relationship between both the Dallas -Fort Worth area and the Houston area markets and how it will always be the first of the two who plays a larger more central role. In fact, from here on out, not only will the city of Dallas continue its lead over Houston concerning the sizes of the retail and wholesale industries based in each, but the much smaller city is going to expand exponentially over the much larger one.

It simply has to.

Even when comparing the city of Dallas to the much larger retail markets of Los Angeles and New York City, in the future, the smaller city is going to be the one whose market will be experiencing incredible exponential growth.

I mention the city of Dallas rather than that of the whole Dallas - Fort Worth area because the retail and wholesale industries are positioned mostly in that larger city located on the east side. As malls are built in the Dallas - Fort Worth area for the purpose of serving a vast region, the much smaller market of Houston builds malls more for the purpose of serving its own local population.

This is why the urban retail within the city of Dallas tends to be a lot healthier in comparison to the same in Houston.

An anomaly has happened recently between the two metropolitan areas as the economy of the city of Houston has boomed more because of its huge energy industry while the economy of the city of Dallas has suffered more along with the cities that surround it. Simply put, for a lengthy duration, people from the surrounding cities were deciding to stay home rather than travel to shop in Dallas.

But the economies of these cities within the Dallas Market have since recovered to the extent that the capital cities of both Oklahoma City and Austin often compete back and forth in having the very best economy in the nation.

As a result of this economic improvement in the surrounding Dallas - Fort Worth market, expect the city of Dallas to recover quickly, to reassert itself as the luxury and upscale mecca of the south, and to, once again, leave the Houston area behind in the dust.

 
Old 08-15-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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Since it's now been buried by pages and pages of spin, I'm reposting Jasonism's last update:

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Luxury Shopping in Dallas

Highland Park Village:
-Akris
-Alexander McQueen
-Anne Fontaine
-Brunello Cucinelli (Coming Fall 2013)
-Carolina Herrera
-Chanel
-Christian Dior
-Christian Louboutin
-Cole Haan
-Diane Von Furstenberg
-Ermenegildo Zegna (Coming 2013/14)
-Escada
-Frédéric Fekkai
-Hadleigh’s
-Harry Winston
-Hermes of Paris (looking to add a second story)
-JamesPerse (Coming 2013/14)
-Jimmy Choo
-Judith Ripka
-LAFCO New York
-Leggiadro
-Lela Rose
-Loro Piana
-Madison
-Rag & Bone (Expanding to Flagship status Summer/Fall 2013)
-Ralph Lauren
-Robert Talbot
-Saint Laurent Paris
-Scoop NYC
-St. John
-Stella McCartney
-Tom Ford (Coming September 2013)
-Tory Burch
-Trina Turk
-Vince
-Warren Barrón Bridal (moving Fall 2013 to Snider Plaza)

NorthPark Center:
-Bottega Veneta
-Bulgari
-Burberry
-Cartier
-CH Carolina Herrera (Reopening as a Flagship in Fall 2013)
-Cole Haan
-David Yurman
-De Beers
-Diesel
-Eileen Fisher
-Elie Tahari
-Gucci
-Helen Ficalora
-Henri Bendel
-Hublot
-Hugo Boss
-Kate Spade New York (Reopening as a Flagship in Fall 2013)
-Lacoste
-Louis Vuitton (Recently Expanded)
-Michael Kors (Recently Expanded)
-Montblanc
-Neiman Marcus
-Nordstrom
-Officine Panerai
-Omega
-Oscar de la Renta
-Ralph Lauren
-Roberto Cavalli
-Rolex
-Salvatore Ferragamo
-Stuart Weitzman
-Tag Heuer
-Ted Baker London
-Tiffany & Co.
-Tod's
-Tourbillon (Coming Fall 2013)
-Valentino
-Versace
-Wolford

Galleria Dallas:
-Faconnable
-Gucci
-Louis Vuitton
-Michael Kors
-Nordstrom
-Tiffany & Co.
-Tourneau

Downtown Dallas/Uptown Dallas:
-Neiman Marcus Flagship (Original)
-Stanley Korshak
-Taschen
-TENOVERSIX
-TRAFFIC LA



Stores Looking to enter the DFW Market:
-(Rumored) Bloomingdales
-(Rumored) Miu Miu
-(Rumored) Prada
-(Rumored) Fendi
-(Rumored) Porsche Design
-Vera Wang



Luxury Shopping in Houston:

The Galleria:
-Anne Fontaine
-Bally
-Bottega Veneta
-Bulgari
-Burberry
-Cartier
-Chanel (Rumored to be moving to Riveroaks District)
-CH Carolina Herrera
-Cole Haan
-David Yurman
-De Beers
-Ermenegildo Zegna
-Fendi
-Giorgio Armani
-Gucci
-Henri Bendel
-Hublot (Coming Fall 2013)
-HUGO Hugo Boss
-Jimmy Choo
-Kate Spade New York
-Lacoste
-L.K. Bennett
-Louis Vuitton
-MaxMara
-Michael Kors
-Miu Miu
-M Missoni
-Montblanc
-Neiman Marcus
-Nordstrom
-Omega
-Porsche Design
-Prada
-Ralph Lauren
-Saint Laurent Paris
-Saks Fifth Avenue
-Salvatore Ferragamo
-St. John
-Stuart Weitzman
-Tag Heuer
-Tiffany & Co.
-Tory Burch
-Tourneau
-Valentino
-Versace
-Wolford

Highland Village Houston:
-Cole Haan
-Donald J. Pliner

BLVD Place:
-Hermes of Paris (Rumored to be moving to Riveroaks District)

The Woodlands Market Street
-Michael Kors
-Tiffany & Co.

Riveroaks District:
-Roberto Cavalli (Coming Fall 2014)



Stores Looking to enter the Houston Market:
-(Rumored for Riveroaks District) Christian Dior
-(Rumored for Riveroaks District) John Lobb
-(Rumored for Riveroaks District) Tom Ford
-(Rumored) Vera Wang


Looks like Dallas is still, without any doubt, the clubhouse leader.
 
Old 08-15-2013, 10:19 AM
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Location: New York, NY
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Default Houston Is The Winner Here

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Originally Posted by RayStokes View Post
Since it's now been buried by pages and pages of spin, I'm reposting Jasonism's last update:





Looks like Dallas is still, without any doubt, the clubhouse leader.
LOL, yea if the clubhouse is for losers. This is a repost of an old, outdated and erroneous list. You've added stores that DON'T exist in Dallas, while omitting a litany of Houston stores to try to prop Dallas up. Moreover, you refuse to acknowledge that scores of luxury stores have put Dallas in their rear view mirror:

Saks Fifth Avenue (3 locations)
Bloomingdale's (which you 'rumor' to come back, LOL)
Giorgio Armani ( Both location)
Barney's New York
Etc...

Clearly, Dallas is a loser here, as Houston wins. Get over it.
 
Old 08-15-2013, 10:36 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Originally Posted by TXT View Post
LOL, yea if the clubhouse is for losers. This is a repost of an old, outdated and erroneous list. You've added stores that DON'T exist in Dallas, while omitting a litany of Houston stores to try to prop Dallas up. Moreover, you refuse to acknowledge that scores of luxury stores have put Dallas in their rear view mirror:

Saks Fifth Avenue (3 locations)
Bloomingdale's (which you 'rumor' to come back, LOL)
Giorgio Armani ( Both location)
Barney's New York
Etc...


Clearly, Dallas is a loser here, as Houston wins. Get over it.

I have no bias toward either city since I live in San Francisco, but I find the texas luxury market to be quite interesting.
Also everyone keeps posting about how Dallas lost stores yet no one is saying how Houston lost Christian Dior this year at the Galleria.



@TXT which stores are you talking about because if anything I left stores out of the Dallas list that have recently been announced.
 
Old 08-15-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TXT View Post
Bloomingdale's (which you 'rumor' to come back, LOL)

I'm not understanding why this is funny. Currently, Bloomingdale's only presence in Texas are two outlet stores in Dallas. They clearly prefer this market over Houston, where they have no presence at all.
 
Old 08-15-2013, 11:24 AM
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Location: New York, NY
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Default Houston Is The Winner Here

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Originally Posted by RayStokes View Post
I'm not understanding why this is funny. Currently, Bloomingdale's only presence in Texas are two outlet stores in Dallas. They clearly prefer this market over Houston, where they have no presence at all.
It's funny because Bloomingdale's closed a gigantic full-line store because there is not enough $$$ in the Dallas market to sustain it. They instead felt pity on Dallas and left you with outlets, so Dallas could hopefully afford the cheap, distressed knock-off goods at the outlets. Let's hope they don't close too. Its not about preferring Dallas, but trying to hold on to at least a piece of market share, albeit with distressed tacky cheap outlet goods.

FYI - Bloomingdale's is scouting about Houston for a new flagship store, while they left Dallas with outhouses...I mean outlets. LOL.

...And Wow, additionally:

Saks Fifth Avenue (3 Dallas locations closed)
Giorgio Armani (2 locations closed)
Barney's New York (Closed Down)
Etc...

Now how about that!
 
Old 08-15-2013, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TXT View Post
LOL, yea if the clubhouse is for losers. This is a repost of an old, outdated and erroneous list. You've added stores that DON'T exist in Dallas, while omitting a litany of Houston stores to try to prop Dallas up. Moreover, you refuse to acknowledge that scores of luxury stores have put Dallas in their rear view mirror:

Saks Fifth Avenue (3 locations)
Bloomingdale's (which you 'rumor' to come back, LOL)
Giorgio Armani ( Both location)
Barney's New York
Etc...

Clearly, Dallas is a loser here, as Houston wins. Get over it.
scores of luxury stores have put Dallas in their rear view mirror
A score is 20, so at the very least "scores" would mean 40. 40 luxury stores have left Dallas?

Unsubstantiated hyperbole tends to lessen the impact of one's argument, if not render it impotent, as does excessive "homerism," repeated incessantly.

Cheerleading and rah-rah statements add up to nothing but wishful thinking. Repeating the same stuff over and over in the hopes that it will somehow be perceived as true adds up to the perception of delusion.
 
Old 08-15-2013, 11:28 AM
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Location: New York, NY
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Default Houston Is The Winner Here

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasonsim View Post
I have no bias toward either city since I live in San Francisco, but I find the texas luxury market to be quite interesting.
Also everyone keeps posting about how Dallas lost stores yet no one is saying how Houston lost Christian Dior this year at the Galleria.



@TXT which stores are you talking about because if anything I left stores out of the Dallas list that have recently been announced.
Christian Dior Houston had to relinquish their lease at the Galleria in a deal that is relocating them to River Oaks District.

Last edited by TXT; 08-15-2013 at 11:30 AM.. Reason: Error: Punctuation
 
Old 08-15-2013, 11:50 AM
TXT
 
Location: New York, NY
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Default Houston Is The Winner Here

Quote:
Originally Posted by casimpso View Post
scores of luxury stores have put Dallas in their rear view mirror
A score is 20, so at the very least "scores" would mean 40. 40 luxury stores have left Dallas?

Unsubstantiated hyperbole tends to lessen the impact of one's argument, if not render it impotent, as does excessive "homerism," repeated incessantly.

Cheerleading and rah-rah statements add up to nothing but wishful thinking. Repeating the same stuff over and over in the hopes that it will somehow be perceived as true adds up to the perception of delusion.
I'm simply stating facts, it's fake pretentious OVERSATURATED can't sustain its luxury stores DALLAS, that suffers from 'Delusions of Grandeur.'

I say it repeadtedly because Dallas boosters wish to ignore the obvious: YOU ARE NOT THE WINNER WHEN YOU'RE LOSING:

Saks Fifth Avenue (3 locations)
Bloomingdale's
Giorgio Armani (Both locations)
Barney's New York
Etc...

Dallas' hype and fluff isn't fooling anyone anymore. The CEO of Prada (which is not in Dallas) said it best:

Milan-based Prada, featuring high-end apparel, footwear, bags and accessories for men and women, chose Houston for its first Texas store because Houston is "the luxury center of Texas," said Francois Kress, president and CEO, Prada USA. "Especially at the Galleria," he said, "the brand mix and sales performance are far superior to any other location in Texas

Likewise, the L.K. Bennett store in the Galleria is one of only four stand-alone boutiques opened in its U.S. debut this ye...

Last edited by TXT; 08-15-2013 at 11:52 AM.. Reason: Error: Word Usage
 
Old 08-15-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
256 posts, read 474,110 times
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Originally Posted by TXT View Post
LOL, yea if the clubhouse is for losers. This is a repost of an old, outdated and erroneous list. You've added stores that DON'T exist in Dallas, while omitting a litany of Houston stores to try to prop Dallas up. Moreover, you refuse to acknowledge that scores of luxury stores have put Dallas in their rear view mirror:

Saks Fifth Avenue (3 locations)
Bloomingdale's (which you 'rumor' to come back, LOL)
Giorgio Armani ( Both location)
Barney's New York
Etc...

Clearly, Dallas is a loser here, as Houston wins. Get over it.
Since apparently my list is outdated here is another.

Update list 15 August 2013. Stores in bold are Texas exclusives.

Luxury Shopping in Dallas

Highland Park Village:
-Akris
-Alexander McQueen
-Anne Fontaine
-Brunello Cucinelli (Coming Fall 2013)
-Carolina Herrera
-Chanel
-Christian Dior
-Christian Louboutin
-Cole Haan
-Diane Von Furstenberg
-Ermenegildo Zegna (Coming Fall 2013)
-Escada
-Frédéric Fekkai
-Hadleigh’s
-Harry Winston
-Hermes of Paris (looking to add a second story)
-JamesPerse (Coming 2013/14)
-Jimmy Choo
-Judith Ripka
-LAFCO New York
-Leggiadro
-Lela Rose
-Loro Piana
-Madison
-Rag & Bone (Recently Expanded)
-Ralph Lauren
-Robert Talbott
-Saint Laurent Paris
-Scoop NYC
-St. John
-Stella McCartney
-Tom Ford (Coming September 2013)
-Tory Burch
-Trina Turk
-Vince
-Warren Barrón Bridal (moving Fall 2013 to Snider Plaza)

NorthPark Center:
-Bottega Veneta
-Bulgari
-Burberry
-Cartier
-CH Carolina Herrera (Reopening as a Flagship in Fall 2013)
-Cole Haan
-David Yurman
-De Beers
-Diesel
-Eileen Fisher
-Elie Tahari
-Gucci
-Helen Ficalora
-Henri Bendel
-Hublot
-Hugo Boss
-Kate Spade New York (Reopening as a Flagship in Fall 2013)
-Lacoste
-Louis Vuitton
-Michael Kors
-Montblanc
-Neiman Marcus
-Nordstrom
-Officine Panerai
-Omega
-Oscar de la Renta
-Ralph Lauren
-Roberto Cavalli
-Rolex (Coming Fall 2013)
-Salvatore Ferragamo
-Stuart Weitzman
-Tag Heuer
-Ted Baker London
-Tiffany & Co.
-Tod's
-Tory Burch (Coming Spring 2014)
-Tourbillon (Coming Fall 2013)
-Trumi
-Valentino
-Versace
-Wolford

Galleria Dallas:
-Faconnable
-Gucci
-Louis Vuitton
-Michael Kors
-Nordstrom
-Rolex
-Tiffany & Co.
-Tourneau

Knox-Henderson:
-Kate Spade (Coming Fall 2013)
-Steven Alan (Coming Fall 2013)

Plaza at Preston Center:
-LUBLU Kira Plastinina

Downtown Dallas/Uptown Dallas:
-Alton Lane (Opening Spring 2013)
-Edo Popken
-Neiman Marcus Flagship (Original)
-Stanley Korshak
-TENOVERSIX
-TRAFFIC LA
-TRAFFICA PLAY



Stores Looking to enter the DFW Market:
-(Rumored) Bloomingdales
-(Rumored) Miu Miu
-(Rumored) Prada
-(Rumored) Fendi
-(Rumored) Porsche Design
-Vera Wang



Luxury Shopping in Houston:

The Galleria:
-Anne Fontaine
-Bally
-Bottega Veneta
-Bulgari
-Burberry
-Cartier
-Chanel (Rumored to be moving to Riveroaks District)
-CH Carolina Herrera
-Cole Haan
-David Yurman
-De Beers
-Ermenegildo Zegna
-Fendi
-Giorgio Armani
-Gucci
-Henri Bendel
-Hublot (Coming Fall 2013)
-HUGO Hugo Boss
-Jimmy Choo
-Kate Spade New York
-Lacoste
-L.K. Bennett
-Louis Vuitton
-MaxMara
-Michael Kors
-Miu Miu
-M Missoni
-Montblanc
-Neiman Marcus
-Nordstrom
-Omega
-Porsche Design
-Prada
-Ralph Lauren
-Saint Laurent Paris
-Saks Fifth Avenue
-Salvatore Ferragamo
-St. John
-Stuart Weitzman
-Tag Heuer
-Tiffany & Co.
-Tory Burch
-Tourneau
-Valentino
-Versace
-Wolford

Highland Village Houston:
-Cole Haan
-Donald J. Pliner

Rice Village:
-Kate Spade Saturday (Coming soon)

BLVD Place:
-Hermes of Paris (Confirmed to be moving to Riveroaks District)

The Woodlands Market Street
-Kate Spade New York (Coming Soon)
-Michael Kors
-Tiffany & Co.
-Trumi

Riveroaks District:
-Roberto Cavalli (Coming Fall 2014)
-Tom Ford (Coming 2015)



Stores Looking to enter the Houston Market:
-(Rumored for Riveroaks District) Christian Dior
-(Rumored for Riveroaks District) John Lobb
-(Rumored) Vera Wang


@TXT Christian Dior is still only rumored to be opening
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