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Old 04-14-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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What was the point of the pic with all the fat chicks?

Jack ignore OP our little drainage ditch is big enough to dick the largest ships in the world.

Ships won't be going near DFW.
The "Fat Chicks" were thrown in to show jack that people even have WEDDINGS in the trinity.

You cant miss what you never had...Dallas has never had ships going through it. Why cry about it now.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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This thread has become stupid and all the homers are out in full force.

Mods, if youre reading, can you either move this bull$hit to the Houston vs. Dallas thread or shut this one down.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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Thumbs down Big plans!

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The "Fat Chicks" were thrown in to show jack that people even have WEDDINGS in the trinity.

You cant miss what you never had...Dallas has never had ships going through it. Why cry about it now.
TRINITY RIVER NAVIGATION PROJECTS


TRINITY RIVER NAVIGATION PROJECTS. The prospect of a Trinity River navigable from its mouth in the Gulf of Mexico to Dallas has long been a cherished dream in Texas, and numerous proposals for making that dream a reality have been put forth. Beginning around 1836 numerous packet boats steamed up the Trinity River, bringing groceries and dry goods and carrying down cotton, sugar, cowhides, and deerskins. One of the largest of these early steamers was the Scioto Belle, put in service in 1844. Some of the packets made it as far as Magnolia, ten miles west of Palestine; in 1854 one reached Porter's Bluff, forty miles below Dallas. Often, however, their movements were impeded by snags, sandbars, low water, and other hazards, and during the late 1840s and early 1850s Dallas citizens tried to obtain federal assistance to clear the river. After a convention on Trinity improvement in 1849 at Huntsville, Congress in 1852 authorized $3,000 "for the survey of the Trinity River, including the bar at the mouth." That same year Lt. William H. C. Whiting of the United States Army Corps of Engineers undertook a survey of the river. He called the Trinity "the deepest and least obstructed river in the State of Texas" and reported that the river could be improved for $31,800. Congress failed to act on Whiting's recommendation; nonetheless, by the 1850s numerous boats were operating on the river. Under a Texas act of 1858, a bar was removed from the mouth of the river. Between 1852 and 1874 some fifty boats plied the Trinity, going as far north as Trinidad in Henderson County and Porter's Bluff in Navarro County. Navigation fell off during the Civil War, but in 1868 a boat reached Dallas with a cargo, after a voyage of a year and four days from Galveston. In the peak season of 1868–69, boats carried 15,425 cotton bales down the Trinity. Competition, however, from the Houston and Texas Central and the Texas and Pacific railroads, which reached Dallas in 1872 and 1873, effectively ended the reign of the riverboats. Growing dissatisfaction with high railroad freight rates and the dream of Dallas as a major port kept the interest in river traffic alive. The federal government conducted several surveys of the Trinity between 1872 and 1900, and Congress authorized a number of small appropriations to remove snags and to widen and deepen the stream. In 1891 a group of prominent Dallas citizens formed the Trinity River Navigation Company to promote river traffic. To deepen the Trinity's upper reaches, the company constructed a dam at McCommas Bluff thirteen miles south of Dallas. In 1893 the city welcomed with a gala celebration the H. A. Harvey, Jr., a 113-foot boat with a capacity of 600 bales of cotton. The boat, owned by the Trinity River Navigation Company, had come up from Galveston in two months and ten days.

TRINITY RIVER NAVIGATION PROJECTS | The Handbook of Texas Online| Texas State Historical Association (TSHA)

Another one of big D's big plans.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:17 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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This thread has become stupid and all the homers are out in full force.

Mods, if youre reading, can you either move this bull$hit to the Houston vs. Dallas thread or shut this one down.
Yes! Why can't they take it over to that thread? Amazing that we can show factual evidence that the two cities are so close... so if people want to start splitting hairs, take it over there.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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TRINITY RIVER NAVIGATION PROJECTS


TRINITY RIVER NAVIGATION PROJECTS. The prospect of a Trinity River navigable from its mouth in the Gulf of Mexico to Dallas has long been a cherished dream in Texas, and numerous proposals for making that dream a reality have been put forth. Beginning around 1836 numerous packet boats steamed up the Trinity River, bringing groceries and dry goods and carrying down cotton, sugar, cowhides, and deerskins. One of the largest of these early steamers was the Scioto Belle, put in service in 1844. Some of the packets made it as far as Magnolia, ten miles west of Palestine; in 1854 one reached Porter's Bluff, forty miles below Dallas. Often, however, their movements were impeded by snags, sandbars, low water, and other hazards, and during the late 1840s and early 1850s Dallas citizens tried to obtain federal assistance to clear the river. After a convention on Trinity improvement in 1849 at Huntsville, Congress in 1852 authorized $3,000 "for the survey of the Trinity River, including the bar at the mouth." That same year Lt. William H. C. Whiting of the United States Army Corps of Engineers undertook a survey of the river. He called the Trinity "the deepest and least obstructed river in the State of Texas" and reported that the river could be improved for $31,800. Congress failed to act on Whiting's recommendation; nonetheless, by the 1850s numerous boats were operating on the river. Under a Texas act of 1858, a bar was removed from the mouth of the river. Between 1852 and 1874 some fifty boats plied the Trinity, going as far north as Trinidad in Henderson County and Porter's Bluff in Navarro County. Navigation fell off during the Civil War, but in 1868 a boat reached Dallas with a cargo, after a voyage of a year and four days from Galveston. In the peak season of 1868–69, boats carried 15,425 cotton bales down the Trinity. Competition, however, from the Houston and Texas Central and the Texas and Pacific railroads, which reached Dallas in 1872 and 1873, effectively ended the reign of the riverboats. Growing dissatisfaction with high railroad freight rates and the dream of Dallas as a major port kept the interest in river traffic alive. The federal government conducted several surveys of the Trinity between 1872 and 1900, and Congress authorized a number of small appropriations to remove snags and to widen and deepen the stream. In 1891 a group of prominent Dallas citizens formed the Trinity River Navigation Company to promote river traffic. To deepen the Trinity's upper reaches, the company constructed a dam at McCommas Bluff thirteen miles south of Dallas. In 1893 the city welcomed with a gala celebration the H. A. Harvey, Jr., a 113-foot boat with a capacity of 600 bales of cotton. The boat, owned by the Trinity River Navigation Company, had come up from Galveston in two months and ten days.

TRINITY RIVER NAVIGATION PROJECTS | The Handbook of Texas Online| Texas State Historical Association (TSHA)

Another one of big D's big plans.
gotta give them credit for their dreams. But Dallas as a major sea port? lol dream on.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:54 PM
 
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gotta give them credit for their dreams. But Dallas as a major sea port? lol dream on.
A sea port is not a must have....Im so glad that you guys love your sea-port.......NEXT!!!
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:57 PM
 
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A sea port is not a must have....Im so glad that you guys love your sea-port.......NEXT!!!
Didn't say it was a must have, but oh-Doggie you guys sure have been dreaming about one for a mighty long time. Too bad
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:38 PM
 
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Didn't say it was a must have, but oh-Doggie you guys sure have been dreaming about one for a mighty long time. Too bad
I wasnt even born then..Who cares....you guys are reaching now
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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Why is Austin and San Antonio even contenders for this?
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:35 PM
 
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Copycats! Everything you just posted is allready being done in houston. The Buffalo Bayou Partnership has a much more pleasing and authentic plan for Buffalo Bayou from Shepard all the way to the Turning Basin.
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Uhh...The bayou plan was created AFTER the Dallas Trinity River Project and its not nearly as big.
Actually the Buffalo Bayou Park has been in a constant state of Upgrade since 1871.

Glenwood was opened as a Park in 1871
Vicks park was added to the mix in 1917. It included a small oxbow lake that filled over. The new plans call for bringing back the lake
The Official Buffalo Bayou Park was formed in the 1920's
Minor redevelopments occurred up to the 70's
Major changes started in 1972
The Bike Paths went in 1993
The Current Masterplan was finalized in 2002

so no Dallasboi, The BB improvements have been going on for a while. As always, Dallas is playing catch up.

And no the plans for BB are not smaller than the Trinity project. The current Park is 160 acres and stretches for 2 miles. The new park will be five times as large stretching for 10 miles.

The sides of the bayou were scrapped to control flooding. This resulted in Brown water.
Efforts are underway to return the Bayou to its clear state by silting the water and replanting the trees.

This portion is just the updates to the existing park. It does not include the 8 additional miles of NEW parK:
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