Left-Wing Radical Group trying to ban Fracking in Denton (Beaumont: mineral rights, 2014)

[JimBaker488]

Denton, Texas, February 18- The Denton Drilling Awareness Group (Denton DAG) today announced they are collecting signatures for a ballot initiative to ban hydraulic fracturing within city limits. If approved by voters, Denton would become the first major Texas city to ban fracking, and the first city in the country to ban fracking after permits had been previously granted.
***
“I’ve been working with Denton residents since 2009 trying to get the city to pass regulations that would allow drilling and still protect community health,” said Earthworks’ Texas Organizer Sharon Wilson. She continued, “Enough is enough. When this ban passes, the fracking industry will have its own bad behavior, and city’s stonewalling, to blame.”

Citizens of Denton, Texas Call For Fracking Ban | Frack Free Denton
*******
Instead of creating jobs and improving US national security, some would seem to prefer more reliance on imported petro from the MidEast while sending more dollars abroad.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Perhaps because Denton doesnt want to become like Azle with weekly earthquakes?

[JimBaker488]

Not everyone in Texas kowtows to the natural gas industry. Texas may have the reputation of being a state where the industry always gets what it wants, especially at the legislative and regulatory levels. But at the grassroots, where activist Sharon Wilson is fighting to raise awareness about the dangers of natural gas drilling, more and more Texans are getting to know the ugly truth about the industry.

Wilson, organizer for Earthworks’ Texas Oil & Gas Accountability Project, believes the best opportunities for making a difference are found at the local level. She gives talks to community groups, big and small, in gas producing regions up and down the state.

- See more at: EARTHWORKS | Shale Gas Watchdog: Sharon Wilson Fills Void Left by Industry Lapdogs

*****
Maybe because they aren't independently wealthy like Sharon Wilson who is more interested in trees than
employment opportunities for people to support themselves and their families ?

[Truth713]

Originally Posted by JimBaker488

*****
Maybe because they aren't independently wealthy like Sharon Wilson who is more interested in trees than
employment opportunities for people to support themselves and their families ?

Maybe but at what price.. will are children really thank us if they inherit a waste lands.. If the damage is real is it worth it.

[CptnRn]

Originally Posted by JimBaker488

Left-Wing Radical Group trying to ban Fracking in Denton

Citizens of Denton, Texas Call For Fracking Ban | Frack Free Denton
*******
Instead of creating jobs and improving US national security, some would seem to prefer more reliance on imported petro from the MidEast while sending more dollars abroad.

You have pretty much destroyed your credibility from the get go when you frame this discussion as a left versus right and national security & jobs versus health and safety. That pretty much says your world view is very myopic and one sided.

It seems clear to me that there are legitimate issues on both sides of this and I personally do not believe that any fracking or oil drilling should be allowed inside the city limits of any community. There are plenty of places in Texas where fracking can take place outside of townships and cities. We are not hurting that badly for oil or gas that we need to be taking unnecessary risks to get to it.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by CptnRn

You have pretty much destroyed your credibility from the get go when you frame this discussion as a left versus right and national security & jobs versus health and safety. That pretty much says your world view is very myopic and one sided.

It seems clear to me that there are legitimate issues on both sides of this and I personally do not believe that any fracking or oil drilling should be allowed inside the city limits of any community. There are plenty of places in Texas where fracking can take place outside of townships and cities. We are not hurting that badly for oil or gas that we need to be taking unnecessary risks to get to it.

If this were the case cities like Beaumont & Kilgore would never have existed. Without those cities Texas wouldn't be the prosperous state it is today.

[AguaDulce]

Originally Posted by CptnRn

You have pretty much destroyed your credibility from the get go when you frame this discussion as a left versus right and national security & jobs versus health and safety. That pretty much says your world view is very myopic and one sided.

It seems clear to me that there are legitimate issues on both sides of this and I personally do not believe that any fracking or oil drilling should be allowed inside the city limits of any community. There are plenty of places in Texas where fracking can take place outside of townships and cities. We are not hurting that badly for oil or gas that we need to be taking unnecessary risks to get to it.

hear hear!

and what about the jobs that can be created in clean energy industries?

[CptnRn]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

If this were the case cities like Beaumont & Kilgore would never have existed.

Oh wow that would be a real shame wouldn't it?

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

Without those cities Texas wouldn't be the prosperous state it is today.

I think Texas would have survived just fine with the residential and industrial areas separated.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by JimBaker488

Citizens of Denton, Texas Call For Fracking Ban | Frack Free Denton
*******
Instead of creating jobs and improving US national security, some would seem to prefer more reliance on imported petro from the MidEast while sending more dollars abroad.

I would prefer solving the mystery of the Azle quakes before expanding fracking. I would absolutely be for the ban if I lived in Denton.

[Trainwreck20]

Interesting approach. Again, frac'ing inside a city limit seems like a bad idea, but it depends on more specific information (nearest house, etc). And you can't stop them from going horizontal. And I think most courts would, at a minimum, prevent existing operations from being removed.

Also, I am pretty sure that the city would be liable for the loss of economic potential to the affect mineral rights holders. That right there might make it prohibitively expensive.