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Old 05-26-2023, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Because it is unwalkable. Anybody that has been to walkable places will tell you ROD performs better in this. ROD is a better shopping experience for pedestrians as you don't have to compete with vehicles going from store to store if one must do that.
100 percent.

No way this

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GAETTDXYMqCVnqKB6?g_st=ic

Is more walkable than this

https://maps.app.goo.gl/map1c6q4FcYJi27v5?g_st=ic

Both districts have impressive lineups but ROD is hands down a better shopping experience for pedestrians.
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Old 05-26-2023, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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Here’s a walking tour of HPV. He walks around the entire shopping center with a good amount of pedestrian traffic. You can see what I’m talking about when I say, it accommodates cars but it doesn’t prioritize them. Just look how easily anyone can walk from shop to shop. It’s still built within human scale. The parking lot redo is partially complete but you can also see it’s now curb less at 7:25.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8t9aSZ...ature=youtu.be
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Old 05-26-2023, 01:47 AM
 
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100 percent.

No way this

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GAETTDXYMqCVnqKB6?g_st=ic

Is more walkable than this

https://maps.app.goo.gl/map1c6q4FcYJi27v5?g_st=ic

Both districts have impressive lineups but ROD is hands down a better shopping experience for pedestrians.
Has there been any talk about them purchasing that Target store next door and demolishing it? The property taxes for that whole surrounding area has to be atrocious.
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Old 05-26-2023, 05:38 AM
 
Location: USA
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I wonder how many people in this tread can even shop at the places they are championing.
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Old 05-26-2023, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Here’s a walking tour of HPV. He walks around the entire shopping center with a good amount of pedestrian traffic. You can see what I’m talking about when I say, it accommodates cars but it doesn’t prioritize them. Just look how easily anyone can walk from shop to shop. It’s still built within human scale. The parking lot redo is partially complete but you can also see it’s now curb less at 7:25.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8t9aSZ...ature=youtu.be
I mean eh...The only thing I will say is that HPV is far more interesting architecturally as ROD is boring in its design. But for pedestrians, ROD still is superior.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX4qkdq_Pho
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Old 05-26-2023, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx.
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Ha!!!!....just scroll back to when Jason posted the list...the next 4 posts after that proved everything I said.

And when your fellow Houstonian cohort called himself checking the source......He got Houston into a crawfish boil.....Because some of those kids were under age and had to be DEDUCTED from the party list!!!....

Which solidified what I was saying EVEN more.....

And of course you weren't any help with your information-less rebuttals......

Houston's Collection of Luxury stores and Market is vastly growing no doubt.......But it is NOT in the same class as Dallas.....

A built-out FULL R.O.D just doesn't stack up when compared to her MOTHER HPV!!!

And if it is built-out It will NEVER stack up.....HPV has double the stores and double the exclusives

But don't get me wrong....Benefit of the doubt she DOES have good bones and potential because......."She get it from her Moma"

HPV(moma) was the inspiration behind the concept and development of R.O.D.......

Developers mimic or "Copy" what works.

So....you're welcome!!!.........We are in the same state.


just More Info:

How Dallas became the world’s capital of the mall.....Meaning Mastered the concept....
https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-ente...l-of-the-mall/



I just want you to learn something from every one of my post...It's only fair.

All of this babble, and you STILL haven't proven anything

Show me PROOF that NPM is a bigger draw than Houston's Galleria.

Show me PROOF that ANY shopping district in DFW is blowing Houston's shopping districts out of the water, despite the latter having less exclusive stores. Because from what I'm able to find, the Galleria is a bigger draw per year than EVERY shopping district in DFW COMBINED.

Sure...the copy and paste method works just fine. ROD copied HPV and made it better, with even more potential on the way. It's the same way AT&T Stadium (son) copied NRG (Big Daddy) and made it better. That goes both ways

Your issue is that you tend to think that MORE is BETTER (although you claim not to)...and we both know that isn't the truth, lol. Take DART for instance...far more expansive than Houston's MetroRail, yet hardly ANYONE utilizes it...while Houston's system, while much smaller, gets much better utilization...and our bus system is doing even better.

You keep grasping at straws, and I'm not sure why. This is a subject that the vast majority of people couldn't care less about (as most people don't have the funds to shop at these luxurious places), yet you're the type who likes having it just to have it, although you'll never shop there personally. I guess I'm built differently...I'll likely never visit ROD barring some unforseen event, as I have no interest in what's being sold there. Maybe my wife will want to go someday...who knows?
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Old 05-26-2023, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx.
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I wonder how many people in this tread can even shop at the places they are championing.

My point exactly.

But you're opening up another can of worms here. I already know what the argument will be
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Old 05-26-2023, 09:16 AM
 
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I wonder how many people in this tread can even shop at the places they are championing.
I once was told that J.C. Penny was the place where the super rich shop. The reason J.C. Penny tanked is because they started going online. The super rich are smart. They don't buy the Caddilac, but the Buick.
So figure much of the money that frequents luxury stores isn't very smart and can barely afford to. Think of all those billionaire Walton kids. While they made their money peddling discount, how often do they frequent luxury stores?
While it is possible for HPV to be 100% luxury, it isn't possible for a gigantic mall like Northpark Center to be luxury. At best, it can be iconic. What Northpark does is require each store to be a flagship.
I think this point is where Northpark truly shines above the Houston Galleria. The shopping districts leading into Northpark get lots of flagship stores. The best example of this is that iconic double decked combination of both a Walmart and a Sam's built to the East in Timbercreek.
Meanwhile, in Houston, outside of the retail surrounding the Houston Galleria, quality falls off rapidly. I've read that Sharpstown Mall has become a dead mall. To the south, Meyerland Mall has been converted into a municipal type property.
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Old 05-26-2023, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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There are areas of crosswalks around HP Village. People aren’t walking through cars.

Unfortunately, due to its historical nature, HP Village doesn’t have connecting parking garages.

ROD did miss a huge opportunity to pull the district to Westheimer. Instead you have surface lots facing the main thoroughfare.
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Old 05-26-2023, 09:32 AM
 
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I mean eh...The only thing I will say is that HPV is far more interesting architecturally as ROD is boring in its design. But for pedestrians, ROD still is superior.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX4qkdq_Pho
Yeah...I totally agree.........About the GENERIC aesthetically designed R.O.D https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7411...!1e3?entry=ttu.........For it to be a "LUXURY" Shopping District it's very uninspiring and drab.......Dallas' "West Village" Shopping district looks more Posh-LUXURY than R.O.D......It's Just not memorable "Post-Card" ready.

West Village | Uptown Dallas
https://youtu.be/m7N8Vabpu28



"Highland Park Village" is Un-Matched in Texas.......Any way you slice it.

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