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Old 12-14-2014, 06:33 PM
 
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I'm not going to disagree that Beaumont is a fairly undesirable place to live, but I am going to question the legitimacy of your post. First of all, who exactly did this "rankng", and what's the source? Also, what category was it being ranked in? Texas? The nation? I can think of more than a few other small metros in Texas that are pretty much just as equally "sad" and "uneducated" as Beaumont-Port Arthur-Orange.

And what do you mean by "If you google beaumont, you should find it". If I Google any place, I will "find it". Please elaborate.

Lastly, you claim that Cajun culture "sucks". What about it sucks so much? The food? The music? The fun-loving, laid back attitudes? I'm not a Cajun, but I know a few, and they're really good people, with a much more rich and unique culture than your average hillbilly. IMO, the Cajun culture of far-Southeast TX is one of the area's most positive attributes.
That is what I was saying. You can google, "Beaumont, saddest city" and find all your answers there. It was also randed, most uneducated for cities of its size, worst place to raise a family..etc.

The cajuns that I meet do not have fun loving laid back attitudes unless you think like them and are caucasian. Anything that deviates from their norm is looked at with disdain and suspicion. If people want that culture so much, go to Louisiana, the last time I checked tho, this was Texas.

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Beaumont sucks, it's really ugly. The only upside is they actually know how to cook Cajun food there and it's close to the border with Louisiana. But why live in Louisiana-lite when you could live in Lake Charles which has a much better culture and is far prettier.
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That's not an upside, sorry
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Old 12-14-2014, 06:58 PM
 
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That is what I was saying. You can google, "Beaumont, saddest city" and find all your answers there. It was also randed, most uneducated for cities of its size, worst place to raise a family..etc.

The cajuns that I meet do not have fun loving laid back attitudes unless you think like them and are caucasian. Anything that deviates from their norm is looked at with disdain and suspicion. If people want that culture so much, go to Louisiana, the last time I checked tho, this was Texas.
And Texas shares some of that culture, whether you like it or not.

And, I did your little Google search. It kept directing me to a link about some "study" done by the University of Vermont, with Twitter prose of all things being used as the criteria for said study. I'm sure Beaumont is a very sad town. I'd probably slit my wrists if I were forced to live there, but I've personally found many other small metros in Texas to be equally sad and overall uneducated. I'm not defending Beaumont here. It is what it is. I'm simply pointing out that it's far from being the only miserable and ugly small city in Texas or in the nation.

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That's not an upside, sorry
You hate Cajun food? Oh well. Many, many people love Cajun food.

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Beaumont sucks, it's really ugly. The only upside is they actually know how to cook Cajun food there and it's close to the border with Louisiana. But why live in Louisiana-lite when you could live in Lake Charles which has a much better culture and is far prettier.
Literally laughing at the idea that Lake Charles is "far prettier" than Beaumont. That's a good one. It's a bit like saying "Phoenix has far hotter summers than Las Vegas".

Both Lake Charles and Beaumont are equally ugly and toxic. Basically carbon-copies of each other that happen to be in different states. The only advantage LC has over Beaumont is legal gaming. Other than that, they might as well be the same city.

Now, if you had said Lafayette, your post might have had a bit more credibility.

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Old 12-14-2014, 07:33 PM
 
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And Texas shares some of that culture, whether you like it or not.

And, I did your little Google search. It kept directing me to a link about some "study" done by the University of Vermont, with Twitter prose of all things being used as the criteria for said study. I'm sure Beaumont is a very sad town. I'd probably slit my wrists if I were forced to live there, but I've personally found many other small metros in Texas to be equally sad and overall uneducated. I'm not defending Beaumont here. It is what it is. I'm simply pointing out that it's far from being the only miserable and ugly small city in Texas or in the nation.



You hate Cajun food? Oh well. Many, many people love Cajun food.



Literally laughing at the idea that Lake Charles is "far prettier" than Beaumont. That's a good one. It's a bit like saying "Phoenix has far hotter summers than Las Vegas".

Both Lake Charles and Beaumont are equally ugly and toxic. Basically carbon-copies of each other that happen to be in different states. The only advantage LC has over Beaumont is legal gaming. Other than that, they might as well be the same city.

Now, if you had said Lafayette, your post might have had a bit more credibility.
Oh you forgot most uneducated too! And well, agree to disagree on the cajun/texas part. Texas used to be mexico, hence tex-mex, but texas was never france so..
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:48 PM
 
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Oh you forgot most uneducated too! And well, agree to disagree on the cajun/texas part. Texas used to be mexico, hence tex-mex, but texas was never france so..
I'm very well aware of Texas' history. That still doesn't change the fact that Cajun culture bleeds over state lines, and besides, it's really only just a few counties in the extreme Southeast corner of the state where you'll experience any kind of Cajun presence. I see you have a big hate-on for Cajuns, but don't worry. Unless you live in that little corner of Texas you probably won't ever have to deal with their horrible, annoying culture.
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:38 AM
 
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And Texas shares some of that culture, whether you like it or not.

And, I did your little Google search. It kept directing me to a link about some "study" done by the University of Vermont, with Twitter prose of all things being used as the criteria for said study. I'm sure Beaumont is a very sad town. I'd probably slit my wrists if I were forced to live there, but I've personally found many other small metros in Texas to be equally sad and overall uneducated. I'm not defending Beaumont here. It is what it is. I'm simply pointing out that it's far from being the only miserable and ugly small city in Texas or in the nation.



You hate Cajun food? Oh well. Many, many people love Cajun food.



Literally laughing at the idea that Lake Charles is "far prettier" than Beaumont. That's a good one. It's a bit like saying "Phoenix has far hotter summers than Las Vegas".

Both Lake Charles and Beaumont are equally ugly and toxic. Basically carbon-copies of each other that happen to be in different states. The only advantage LC has over Beaumont is legal gaming. Other than that, they might as well be the same city.

Now, if you had said Lafayette, your post might have had a bit more credibility.
This is downtown Lake Charles (Bord Du Lac Park). You call that ugly?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/La...b98dd6b9a77382
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:01 AM
 
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Yes, I'd have to agree that Lake Charles is more attractive than Beaumont, but the differences are in no way drastic. Both cities are still in the same geographic and cultural region. It's no different than most areas of Texas where you'll have an "ugly" town and a "prettier" town just a few miles down the road from each other.

For the most part, everything looks the same from Beaumont to LaPlace.
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Old 12-15-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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Texas used to be mexico, hence tex-mex, but texas was never France so..
Uhhh. No. Texas was also a part of France, in the 1600s. France's influence was shorter and therefore much smaller, but it's definitely there.
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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Uhhh. No. Texas was also a part of France, in the 1600s. France's influence was shorter and therefore much smaller, but it's definitely there.
Source? Oh wait, i already did your work for you. ONE settlement for 3- 5 years is a blip in time. This place was New Spain and Mexico way longer. I wouldnt say 5 years is a reason for all of east texas to be cajun territory.
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:53 PM
 
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Source? Oh wait, i already did your work for you. ONE settlement for 3- 5 years is a blip in time. This place was New Spain and Mexico way longer. I wouldnt say 5 years is a reason for all of east texas to be cajun territory.
Texas was part of Mexico for about 15 years, I think. And during that time East Texas was mostly nothing but vast forest. Texas was part of New Spain, but so was Louisiana, the rest of the Gulf Coast and Florida.

Beamont is 47% Black and like 13% Hispanic, and I'm pretty sure that number is largely made up of recent immigrants. Southeast Texas isn't Louisiana, but you'll hear far more zydeco than you will Tejano. You need to go about four hours west for "Tex Mex", and Beaumont is closer to New Orleans than it is San Antonio.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:04 PM
 
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Uhhh. No. Texas was also a part of France, in the 1600s. France's influence was shorter and therefore much smaller, but it's definitely there.
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Source? Oh wait, i already did your work for you. ONE settlement for 3- 5 years is a blip in time. This place was New Spain and Mexico way longer. I wouldnt say 5 years is a reason for all of east texas to be cajun territory.
Actually, parts of North Texas and most of the panhandle were part of the Louisiana Purchase (ie. under French colonial rule) for 63 years. The catch is that those parts of Texas were never actually settled by any French colonists during that entire time.

The only part of TX that ever was settled by French colonists was the Matagorda Bay area, by La Salle, because he got lost and thought he was in Louisiana. His group settled there anyway, but were extremely unsuccessful in making their settlement last more than a few years, due to multiple epidemics and constant attacks from hostile Karankawas.

So yeah, Texas never had any major historical French colonization the way Louisiana did, but my earlier point had nothing to do with any of that. The context in which I was speaking was a more current and modern one, the point being that in the last century or so Cajun culture has bled over from Louisiana into a small corner of Texas. Another poster provided a great point that Cajun culture is much more prominent in BPA than Tejano, or "Tex-Mex" culture is. Beaumont shares more in common with Southern Louisiana than it does with the rest of Texas... kind of like how El Paso shares more in common with New Mexico than it does with the rest of Texas.
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