OMG...TEXIT Nexit??? (Center: exemption, statistics, rich)

[TheOverdog]

And there are more complicated issues, like oil and gas subsidies and tax breaks, exploration perks, etc.

I'm not sure it's worth it to get deep into the woods on that kind of stuff. Oil & Gas for Texas, banking for NY, agriculture for the midwest, real estate for CA - every state gets a special set of subsidies defined around their economic set up.

[radiolibre99]

Originally Posted by Westerner92

None. Yes. Texas would likely descend into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia. Think about it: Oil barons and religious radicals struggling to keep a balance of power. Very hot summers and continual water issues. An undervalued manual labor force consisting mostly of foreigners that they both hate and need at the same time. I'm sure a disappointing portion of the population here salivates for such a world and another disappointing portion of the population is too nationalistic to realize how stupid an idea it is, and a shocking number of these people are in the Texas GOP.

It's mostly sensationalized in the news though since the 24-hour news cycle has ruined journalism.

Ok, I can see where you might think that but that's a bit exaggerated. I'm sympathetic to the idea of Texas staying in the union but doing what's best for its interest. In that regard I could be seen as a bit "nationalist" but not secessionist. Texas is unique to me in its culture and economy, I would hate to see it just become like any other place. I doubt it's the Fed that would actually unravel it but if it is causing a roadblock I can see why these ppl want to break away. But like I said, I doubt it's the federal govt. The only reason why I wouldn't want it to happen is because the people at the helm are a little too anti spending. Not that I'm a spend free liberal type but that the types that call for secession think any amount of spending on anything is akin to socialism and they scream that we will end up like California! LOL. They'd defund everything. We'd have literally no safety net and businesses will do whatever they want.
How would they take care of the poverty in the south that drags all the positive numbers down for the state? Infrastructure? Public transit? All socialist to them.

[Soonhun]

It would be nice if the response was typed in a way I could easily quote it.

1) No, that still would not be a good reason to shut off water.

2-4) This is all about money. Texas doesn't require a large military, even one that is basically America's military sized down for Texas. No state would, because no state would ever need to police and patrol the world like America does. After all, the link is discussing a peaceful secession with the US' permission, it isn't like Texas, or any state, will then need a military to defend itself from the United States. As TheOverdog mentioned, your link does not show anything about Texas taking more or less money than it gives. It shows that Texas had a federal income of 36.7 billion USD, but that doesn't say whether that is more or less than what is collected in Texas though income tax. My point is that without having to spend so much on such a large military, and likely less in things like pensions, Texas, and probably most any states, would be able to fund SS or disaster relief without making many changes, if any, to revenue.

5) If you think it is worth a response, give me some reason to believe that would happen in the first place. We mind as well be preparing for the moon the explode.

6) Yeah, probably, or some other nation. I don't see why it matters from where.

Though, your link does make me wonder how Texas had a negative inheritance tax collection. Can someone explain that to me?

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by Westerner92

None. Yes. Texas would likely descend into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia. Think about it: Oil barons and religious radicals struggling to keep a balance of power. Very hot summers and continual water issues. An undervalued manual labor force consisting mostly of foreigners that they both hate and need at the same time. I'm sure a disappointing portion of the population here salivates for such a world and another disappointing portion of the population is too nationalistic to realize how stupid an idea it is, and a shocking number of these people are in the Texas GOP.

It's mostly sensationalized in the news though since the 24-hour news cycle has ruined journalism.

Please tell me you don't really believe this stuff.

[Trainwreck20]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

Please tell me you don't really believe this stuff.

A little over-the-top, but not as much as one might think, unfortunately.

[Westerner92]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

Please tell me you don't really believe this stuff.

It's definitely hyperbolic as a literary device, but not as hyperbolic as many might want to believe. Given how ridiculous the conversation around Texan independence is, I have a tendency to be just as ridiculous when the subject comes up.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

Please tell me you don't really believe this stuff.

Its slightly exaggerated, but I believe it.

[Glenn Ross]

Those in favor of TEXIT evidently haven't heard that the idea of a state leaving the Union was settled in 1865. As proud a Texan as I am, my country comes first. I will not make the same mistake Robert E. Lee made.

[testmo]

Internet polls are stupid. Half the votes are foreigners thinking **** we do in the US is funny and a quarter are people who feel the complete opposite they just get a kick out of stupid arguments.

Texas politicians are crooks and dirty. They carry on about it in public and speak out of both sides of their mouths while lining their pockets. If pigs could fly and texas seceded they'd be strung up by voters within a two year period. Pretty sure they know that so pretty sure they only carry on with this B.S. because it somehow makes them money

Media need to stop carrying these type of stories so it can just end

[AFD1017]

This state can't and won't turn down the billions in equitable (or nonequitable - another story) shares in tax dollars for education, highways and public health (I didn't say abortion). I have a son taking advantage of 2 Federal grant programs to attend Texas A&M. Hate me all you want, but I am a man who has fed, clothed, educated and loved his family. The Federal Government afforded me this opportunity for being fair and frankly respectful.

I have a major problem with men who act on my behalf who seem to believe they care more about my wife and children because of one's sexuality or party politics. It's sad that family, and responsibly paying your taxes while taking care of your neighbors because it's the right thing to do is neither respected or considered.