Senator Charles Perry files to eliminate sanctuary cities in Texas

[kidicarus89]

Originally Posted by Cowboys fan in Houston

How about something more impartial.

https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...ampaign=Buffer

Libertarian candidate says Mexican immigrants more law-abiding than U.S. citizens | PolitiFact

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usato...?client=safari

https://www.google.com/amp/www.wsj.c...?client=safari

I was just going to post that first link. Though still partisan, its a much better researched paper than the Fox News link TexasRedneck just posted.

[jackalope48]

I'm always confused by the idea that a person who has committed a violent crime should be turned over to ICE to be deported rather than sent to trial for the crime they committed. Shouldn't a dangerous felon capable and willing to cross into the United States be in you know prison? Seems kinda stupid to just deport them.

As for the rest of it why doesn't state DPS do this if it's so important? The answer is it's not. Being in the U.S. by overstaying a visa is a civil not a criminal violation. In other words it's on par with red light camera tickets and parking tickets in terms of how the system handles it. Most police officers and agencies are neither trained, equipped, or legally empowered to enforce immigration law.

The reason counties don't hold people on low level immigration issues is because counties don't hold people who haven't committed felonies for damn near any time at all. Why? For one it tends to be the law. (Go read Article 1. Section 11 of the Texas Constitution). Two there tend to be enough accused felons to take all the beds at county jails(There are 750,000 or so Jail cells in the U.S.). Three the Feds don't want them anyway since they don't have unlimited places to put people while they decide whether to deport them and any court case on their status is ongoing.

So if whatever this is passes who's going to take the heat when higher level offenders get bonded out of jail to make room for the restaurant dishwasher who got hauled in for a busted tail light and is waiting in the county jail for INS to come get him and put him in their imaginary detention center with the capacity to handle him while he goes through the several month to several year process of being deported? (Currently INS has detention capacity for a whopping 34k people)

Who is the safest person to lower the bond on so they free up jail space is pretty much the biggest meeting that happens in county government on a regular basis. If the legislature thinks they can somehow mandate that a bunch of sheriffs and elected judges keep folks in jail waiting for INS they have no understanding of how the system they purport to be in charge of actually works.

[dollaztx]

There are many people who oppose sanctuary cities but don't quite understand what it is. It isn't an embrace of illegal immigration like so many people assume. This law will be sent to court and be undone because our local counties will end up paying money and dealing with something that the federal government is supposed to be doing. If you feel good about your county sheltering, caring for, etc for illegal immigrants than by all means this is a great law to you.

[kidicarus89]

The last two replies perfectly sum up why this is nothing but a feel-good law for a very gullible base, and nothing else.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by kidicarus89

The last two replies perfectly sum up why this is nothing but a feel-good law for a very gullible base, and nothing else.

I completely sign off on this sentiment.

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Originally Posted by Cowboys fan in Houston

Funny since illegal immigrants are far LESS likely to commit violent crimes vs. American citizens.

How do we know? We don't know how many illegals are actually in the country or state, we don't know where they live and we don't know where they work. How could those statistics ever be trustworthy?

All I know for a fact is that 100% of the crimes committed by illegal aliens are preventable if that illegal alien wasn't in the country in the first place.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow

How do we know? We don't know how many illegals are actually in the country or state, we don't know where they live and we don't know where they work. How could those statistics ever be trustworthy?

All I know for a fact is that 100% of the crimes committed by illegal aliens are preventable if that illegal alien wasn't in the country in the first place.

We do have a very good idea of how many are here and how many are in each metro area. At the very LEAST we will certainly know their immigration status if they are arrested for a violent crime.


Unauthorized Immigrant Population Profiles | migrationpolicy.org

[lepoisson]

Originally Posted by dollaztx

There are many people who oppose sanctuary cities but don't quite understand what it is. It isn't an embrace of illegal immigration like so many people assume. This law will be sent to court and be undone because our local counties will end up paying money and dealing with something that the federal government is supposed to be doing. If you feel good about your county sheltering, caring for, etc for illegal immigrants than by all means this is a great law to you.

Sanctuary cities were created to encourage illegals to report crimes without fear of being checked for immigration status. Illegals are often victims of crimes because people know they will often avoid dealing with law enforcement.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, it's really sad that illegals are taken advantage of and fall victim to crimes. On the other hand, if they were here legally, it wouldn't even be an issue.

[dollaztx]

Originally Posted by lepoisson

Sanctuary cities were created to encourage illegals to report crimes without fear of being checked for immigration status. Illegals are often victims of crimes because people know they will often avoid dealing with law enforcement.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, it's really sad that illegals are taken advantage of and fall victim to crimes. On the other hand, if they were here legally, it wouldn't even be an issue.

Yes that's another aspect. A lot of people committing crimes on illegals more than likely do crimes on legal citizens as well so its important for them to report crimes so that they will eventually be arrested. Also some of those criminals committing crimes on illegals could be illegal themselves so it helps weed bad ones out. Take out sanctuary cities and bad illegals (oddily enough) will be harder to prosecute and deport.

[radiolibre99]

Does it matter if illegals commit less crime on average than the native born? I mean they could all be Buddhist monks that would never harm a fly, is everyone forgetting that they broke the law by skipping the line in front of people trying to enter here legally? And just because they may commit less crime than the average native population it doesn't mean that they commit no crimes, if they're here illegally they shouldn't be here much less be committing a crime.