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Old 03-29-2017, 10:22 PM
 
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If you want to keep public school in Texas, call your senators tomorrow.



"After little debate Thursday, the Senate Education Committee voted 7-3 to pass legislation that would create two public programs subsidizing private school tuition and homeschooling expenses.

Senate Bill 3, a priority for Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, now heads to the full Senate, where it’s also expected to pass. Corresponding bills have not been taken up by the House Public Education Committee.

Thursday’s vote came two days after a committee hearing that lasted more than eight hours, with more than 150 people filling the room to testify in support and opposition. The bill’s author, Senate Education Chairman Larry Taylor, R-Friendswood, submitted a new version of the bill that he said would decrease the cost of the programs"

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/03...l-choice-bill/
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Old 03-29-2017, 10:49 PM
 
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I like school choice as long as it's done right.
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Old 03-30-2017, 09:33 AM
 
Location: South Texas
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The first program created in the bill, education savings accounts or ESAs, would give parents online accounts of state money to pay for private school tuition or homeschooling expenses.
The second program, tax credit scholarships, would allow businesses to receive credits against their insurance premium taxes if they contribute to approved scholarship organizations.
Both excellent ideas!
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Old 03-30-2017, 11:52 AM
 
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The vouchers would not be enough money to pay for full tuition in a private school, do you realize that? It would also drain public schools of money.

I personally do not want my taxes to go towards religious schools.
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Old 03-30-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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I'm for improving education, public schools have not been the answer in much of Texas, sure there are numerous exceptions.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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School "choice" could get expensive for the taxpayer:

LegislED: The cost of "choice" in Texas? SB3's fiscal note says $218 million.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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The concept seems good (school 'choice'), but in the end the real 'goal' is:
- Creating private schools that wealthier people can send their kids to. Lower income will not be able to afford the difference between voucher/tuition or be able to get their kids to the private schools at all due to location (no school buses, ofc);
- Have schools that don't have to bother with people with special education needs; and
- Provide another method for businessmen to extract money from the public at large.

The private schools will be a resounding 'success', at least on paper, since they won't have to deal with low-income and special needs, while at the same time the public schools have to deal with a higher percentage of those kids on a smaller budget. Wallah! Guaranteed winner!
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Old 03-30-2017, 06:01 PM
 
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The concept seems good (school 'choice'), but in the end the real 'goal' is:
- Creating private schools that wealthier people can send their kids to. Lower income will not be able to afford the difference between voucher/tuition or be able to get their kids to the private schools at all due to location (no school buses, ofc);!
This is true. But sadly, some lower income people seem to believe that vouchers will give their child the chance to go free full tuition at a private school.

They are sadly misinformed.

This will only benefit those with the means to already send their child to private school; that's who this was designed for - to put more money into the hands of people who are wealthy.

So my advice is, call your senator's office and let him/her know you don't support it. Because it will pass soon unless more people call.
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Old 03-30-2017, 09:10 PM
 
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Both excellent ideas!
Not really. Just because it's called "school choice" doesn't mean your child can attend any private school that he chooses to.

You see, private schools are free to reject anyone, for any reason. And not just students who can't achieve academically. If they are too full, if you aren't the right religion, or anything else they don't like about you, they can turn you down. They can't be sued for discrimination if they decide they don't like your race, your cultural background or religion; since they are private institutions.

So if the voucher system is passed, it's going to be very difficult for many parents, as some private schools may not accept their child. And once the public schools are drained of money, those won't be an attractive alternative either.

All i can advise you is, get ready to homeschool.
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Old 03-30-2017, 09:44 PM
 
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You see, private schools are free to reject anyone, for any reason. And not just students who can't achieve academically. If they are too full, if you aren't the right religion, or anything else they don't like about you, they can turn you down. They can't be sued for discrimination if they decide they don't like your race, your cultural background or religion; since they are private institutions.
Well, that actually shouldn't be the case, at least not legally speaking since vouchers will be tied to tax dollars (at least in the pass-through sense); however, times are a-changing and I suspect that there will be more wiggle room to set conditions that make an environment hostile to various groups.


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All i can advise you is, get ready to homeschool.
Hmm...an idea, if I home school my kids, shouldn't I get vouchers to pay myself?
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