Texas being excluded from the South (Houston, Dallas: established neighborhood, private schools, tuition)

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

If you got to know Virginia locals, you’d hear a big southern influence in their accent

I used to live in Virginia and I agree - in fact, Virginia is my very favorite state. I go there pretty often - in fact, I just spent a vacation there a few months ago (again).

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

If you got to know Virginia locals, you’d hear a big southern influence in their accent

Using that logic, Miami is not in the South

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by Dopo

Using that logic, Miami is not in the South

Except that (as I mentioned above) I don’t restrict the south to based on accent. If the state is geographically in the American south, it’s a southern state. Like Texas, Florida and Virginia. I mentioned the accent because most of the physical areas of Virginia definitely has a southern twang.

That being said, the problem with this is that Miami is extremely extremely international. More than Houston. A foreigner or even first generation American are less likely to catch local accent. Whether it’s an Arab in Houston, an Ethiopian in Dallas, or a Protuguese in Miami. Miami is the most international city in the states by percentage. And a huge portion of the domestic population are transplants.

When you go to speak with long generation locals, the southern accents in Miami start to show.

https://youtu.be/teEbNuDfo9w

[ParaguaneroSwag]

And as usual, only in the south do people pick differences to try to stay out of the line.

[Nuclear Bear]

Originally Posted by Thoreau424

Texas doesn't need the the South. It's been a republic, still has a republic/independent attitude, and has the Lone Star as a symbol. We don't need the South. It might need us, but not the other way around. Abandon the nonsense.

This right here.
Some people in Texas identify themselves as Southerners.....there are others like me that don't identify with the South at all.

[Nuclear Bear]

Originally Posted by Klassyhk

Almost all native Texans speak with some type of Southern accent if they've never lived in another part of the country. I've been to Ft. Worth on short visits. The locals in Ft. Worth don't sound much different from locals in Dallas. If you haven't heard a southern accent in Ft. Worth, what accent have you heard them speak?

What accent have I heard people from Ft Worth speak????

Flat, boring, monotone...no different than someone from Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska. If you get someone from a more rural area they might have a real "Texan" twangy accent.

People from Dallas or Forth Worth sound NOTHING like people from East Texas. People from East Texas tend to have a very distinct Southern accent.

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by Nuclear Bear

This right here.
Some people in Texas identify themselves as Southerners.....there are others like me that don't identify with the South at all.

As long as people use that term to describe the region that was the confederacy ... I'll call myself a Texan but not a Southerner.

[Nuclear Bear]

Originally Posted by Dopo

As long as people use that term to describe the region that was the confederacy ... I'll call myself a Texan but not a Southerner.

I'm 100% a Texan....that's it.

I've repeated this story a bunch, but in the Summer of 2001 I was working in Macon, GA and Atlanta....and the Deep South was a total culture shock to me.

One of the coolest things about the South was the whole waving at cars bit. I had never seen that before. People would just wave at a total stranger as they drove by. The dude in the car would usually honk, or mutual smiles would be exchanged.

I tried that in Dallas and people would look at me like I was crazy. I think that is very much a function of Dallas having garages in the back of homes...and thus it makes Dallas not the friendliest city.

[supfromthesite]

Originally Posted by WestGuest

Let them exclude us- Why would we want to be included in the states, with lowest literacy, poorest health, highest obesity,poorest education and Civil War losers. At least the University of Texas is decent and while not up to Cal-Berkeley or Michigan standards, its not Alabama or Miss.

Duke and Vanderbilt are better schools than UT. Silly comment. Also news flash. Texas lost the civil war too.

[supfromthesite]

Originally Posted by Dopo

We can start by eliminating the idea that “The South” is the areas that were pro-slavery
I see no reason for Virginia to be included in what we call today “The South”

Gets worse when you talk about whether or not West Virginia is part of the South
Since West Virginia refused to join the confederacy and broke away from Virginia.

At the same time, it’s ridiculous to say that West Virginia is in the north and Virginia is in the south
When it’s completely obvious that one is on the west side of the other one.

West Virginia and Maryland were very close to being Confederate states.