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[RJ312]

Originally Posted by River City Rocky

Do you have a source for saying the Democratic party bribes people in the US?

Name one purely capitalist country that has ever succeeded on Earth?

The massive amount of government handouts are essentially bribes for votes.

Chile since 1973 is one of the purest examples of capitalism. Chile has been succeeding since the removal of a socialist leader who nearly ruined the country. It's been a great free market experiment.

Originally Posted by Kthnry

How is this supposed to work in declining areas of the country, such as Ohio or West Virginia?

There's a solution somewhere. Free markets solve things better than the government handouts. This nation was built from nothing on ingenuity and perseverance. We need more of that and less dependence on the government.

[River City Rocky]

Originally Posted by RJ312

The massive amount of government handouts are essentially bribes for votes.

Chile since 1973 is one of the purest examples of capitalism. Chile has been succeeding since the removal of a socialist leader who nearly ruined the country. It's been a great free market experiment.





There's a solution somewhere. Free markets solve things better than the government handouts. This nation was built from nothing on ingenuity and perseverance. We need more of that and less dependence on the government.

Chile? That's very debatable, especially considering that the US backed Pinochet was a mass murderer.

[buenos]

Originally Posted by River City Rocky

Chile? That's very debatable, especially considering that the US backed Pinochet was a mass murderer.

We know from history that communists always end up mass murdering innocent people by the millions. We know. The only thing (according to history) that was ever been able to successfully prevent communists from committing mass murder (like in Russia, China, Cambodia...) was mass murdering them. The difference is communists kill INNOCENT people (being successful in commerce/business is not a crime), while communists themselves are are not innocent. Only moral relativism prevents anyone from seeing this difference. Recently communists and socialists have been trying to pose as moral superiors, to avoid other people pointing out that they are mass murderers. Pinochet was right, Allende (and his cronies) had to die.

[RJ312]

Originally Posted by River City Rocky

Chile? That's very debatable, especially considering that the US backed Pinochet was a mass murderer.

The United States' role in the Chile coup was overstated, it would have happened with or without U.S. involvement. The Chilean coup of 1973 brought about meaningful economic reforms that have lasted since Pinochet left office 28 years ago.

Originally Posted by buenos

Pinochet was right, Allende (and his cronies) had to die.

It is fair to say that the Chile would have become the Cuba of South America had the path pursued by Allende continued. Next door in Argentina, their rejection of capitalist has laid ruin to that country. In the 1800s and early 1900s, Argentina was a prosperous nation, nearly on par with the United States during that time. Since about the 1920s, Argentina's turn away from the principles of capitalism has turned it into a mess of a nation.

[River City Rocky]

Originally Posted by buenos

We know from history that communists always end up mass murdering innocent people by the millions. We know. The only thing (according to history) that was ever been able to successfully prevent communists from committing mass murder (like in Russia, China, Cambodia...) was mass murdering them. The difference is communists kill INNOCENT people (being successful in commerce/business is not a crime), while communists themselves are are not innocent. Only moral relativism prevents anyone from seeing this difference. Recently communists and socialists have been trying to pose as moral superiors, to avoid other people pointing out that they are mass murderers. Pinochet was right, Allende (and his cronies) had to die.

Pinochet killed at least 1,000 people without any trials or anything, how is that ethical to you? So just because they were "socialists' they deserved to die? Mass murder is ok as long as it's for the good of capitalism? You people sound like jihadists to me...

[River City Rocky]

Originally Posted by RJ312

The United States' role in the Chile coup was overstated, it would have happened with or without U.S. involvement. The Chilean coup of 1973 brought about meaningful economic reforms that have lasted since Pinochet left office 28 years ago.




It is fair to say that the Chile would have become the Cuba of South America had the path pursued by Allende continued. Next door in Argentina, their rejection of capitalist has laid ruin to that country. In the 1800s and early 1900s, Argentina was a prosperous nation, nearly on par with the United States during that time. Since about the 1920s, Argentina's turn away from the principles of capitalism has turned it into a mess of a nation.

Pinochet was a US backed dictator, mass murderer and thief that embezzled Millions of dollars, don't sugar-coat the truth; it's debatable whether his policies truly helped Chile or not because Chile didn't really start doing well until after his death.

I'm not for any sole economic system, because the best systems are always mixed economies and the world is evolving way too fast to keep believing that any pure economic system is the way to go. What works in one place may never work in another.

The US has a pretty good mixed economy it would just be nice if they had more social conscience to help eliminate so much poverty, violence, and hopelessness.

[supfromthesite]

Originally Posted by Kthnry

How is this supposed to work in declining areas of the country, such as Ohio or West Virginia?

Well, in West Virginia, it would take out the coal lobbyists.

[supfromthesite]

Originally Posted by River City Rocky

Do you have a source for saying the Democratic party bribes people in the US?

Name one purely capitalist country that has ever succeeded on Earth?

America from 1700s-1910s did pretty well (until they introduced the income tax)
You're going to have a hard time finding any others, because, as has been said in this thread, nobody besides descendants of the British Isles give a damn about liberty or freedom. They destroyed their own country by allowing non-British to move in. Such is life.
Pure capitalist, is not the answer though. Nationalism is. America was very nationalist back then. Japan is very nationalist and does great. Russia. Meanwhile America and Europe have been pushing towards globalism and their societies have started to fail very hard.

[buenos]

Originally Posted by River City Rocky

Pinochet killed at least 1,000 people without any trials or anything, how is that ethical to you? So just because they were "socialists' they deserved to die? Mass murder is ok as long as it's for the good of capitalism? You people sound like jihadists to me...

You still refuse to understand that socialists enslave and mass murder INNOCENT people (who did not agress against anyone), therefore they are GUILTY. Your moral relativism denies any differentiation between innocent and guilty, between predators and prey, between parasites and hosts. Socialists are the originators of intolerance, therefore society has to be intolerant towards them. Fair trial? The 20th century was their trial, when they murdered 100 million people and enslaved more than a billion. We don't need to give a 35th chance to a mass murdering cult (socialists). We don't need to pretend to not know who they are and what they are capable of. FORCE is justified against socialists, jihadists... You comparing me to a jihadist is pure PROJECTION. Socialists are like jihadists, that is why they love each other so much.

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by River City Rocky

Pinochet killed at least 1,000 people without any trials or anything, how is that ethical to you? So just because they were "socialists' they deserved to die? Mass murder is ok as long as it's for the good of capitalism? You people sound like jihadists to me...

Speaking of jihadists on the 500th anniversary of the oft-ignored Protestant Reformation, what if the Catholic Church violently suppressed the Reformation? Like executing Martin Luther after the conclusion of the Diet of Worms.

Spain had control of the Netherlands. Why not commit genocide to rid the Calvinist heretics, especially that they had conspired with the Ottoman (Turkish) Sultan to stay Protestant? Exterminating Protestantism can be justified for the "good of the church" and the unity of (Western) Europe! Without Calvinists, there would be no Baptists--the majority religion among whites in Texas.

The Reformation was instrumental in creating the Foundations of the Enlightenment, such as the United States and Republican France.

Originally Posted by River City Rocky

Pinochet was a US backed dictator, mass murderer and thief that embezzled Millions of dollars, don't sugar-coat the truth; it's debatable whether his policies truly helped Chile or not because Chile didn't really start doing well until after his death.

I'm not for any sole economic system, because the best systems are always mixed economies and the world is evolving way too fast to keep believing that any pure economic system is the way to go. What works in one place may never work in another.

The US has a pretty good mixed economy it would just be nice if they had more social conscience to help eliminate so much poverty, violence, and hopelessness.

Typical Trump supporters. They ignore the rule of law unless it benefits the 1% or the deplorables. Look at Trump's management style--it's very totalitarian. He does not understand that government works differently than the (money laundering) Trump Organization with checks-and-balances built into the U.S. Constitution. That same constitution of the country he loves(?) and swore to uphold on January 20, 2017.

I would say that Trump and Chávez are similar in their populist persona, though on different ends of the political spectrum.

The poverty, violence, and hopelessness can be traced to social division. Racism created poverty, Gun profiteering created violence, and the political discourse created hopelessness. It's getting close to 1789 in America.