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Old 06-05-2019, 01:08 PM
 
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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This is right on point in my experience. DFW pay is generally a little lower for similar jobs because O&G pays better than most other industries, but the gap has closed primarily due to jobs from more expensive areas, as you alluded to. Houston's job market is more stratified - more high-end, high salary jobs, but also more low-end jobs as well.[/b]
Some really good points in your post.

I would make the point though that while Oil and Gas jobs in Houston pay really well, and that might translate to federal jobs paying more, but for most white collar jobs there isn't really a difference in salary that I have noticed, in fact, my buddy who is in finance mentioned he was looking at moving back to Dallas from Houston and on average jobs paid more in his niche.

As long as I've been in Dallas it's been the more expensive of the two metros.
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Old 06-05-2019, 02:10 PM
 
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Some really good points in your post.

I would make the point though that while Oil and Gas jobs in Houston pay really well, and that might translate to federal jobs paying more, but for most white collar jobs there isn't really a difference in salary that I have noticed, in fact, my buddy who is in finance mentioned he was looking at moving back to Dallas from Houston and on average jobs paid more in his niche.

As long as I've been in Dallas it's been the more expensive of the two metros.
Oh, it definitely translates into Federal jobs paying more because there's a LOT of O&G jobs in Houston, particularly of the higher end engineering variety. I agree that for white-collar jobs outside of O&G there's little difference and I'd expect Dallas to pay a bit more in certain sectors, finance being one of them.

As far as the housing goes, Dallas has always been slightly more expensive from a housing/cost of living perspective, with slightly lower salaries. Now salaries there are trending higher, but housing growth has continued to outpace salary growth in recent years. End of year median housing prices:

DFW-
2000: $132,000
2005: $147,700
2010: $141,400
2015: $173,500
2016: $195,500
2017: $216,100
2018: $240,700
2019 (April): $243,900

Houston-
2000: $126,500
2005: $142,200
2010: $136,900
2015: $171,900
2016: $184,300
2017: $191,400
2018: $204,600
2019 (April): $205,600
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Old 06-06-2019, 06:09 PM
 
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Let's zoom in on what's wrong with Galveston....


This water right here. MY dog is too good for this water and so am I. I love swimming and beaches but I'm not this desperate. I can wait for a real vacation. The boardwalk pier and all that is eh. I'd rather drive to San Antonio and experience the Riverwalk.


That water looks like the milk in a bowl after eating some Cocoa Pebbles No thank you.
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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Looks like a chill time.
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:46 PM
 
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Let's zoom in on what's wrong with Galveston....


This water right here. MY dog is too good for this water and so am I. I love swimming and beaches but I'm not this desperate. I can wait for a real vacation. The boardwalk pier and all that is eh. I'd rather drive to San Antonio and experience the Riverwalk.


That water looks like the milk in a bowl after eating some Cocoa Pebbles No thank you.
Not the best photo to illustrate your point, to be honest.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:34 AM
 
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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Not the best photo to illustrate your point, to be honest.
The water is gross looking, even if it is technically ok.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:41 AM
 
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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Galveston is like What-a-burger. I like it, but I don't mistake it for fine dining which it is not, but I still enjoy it. The fanboys overrate it and the haters underate it.
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Old 06-07-2019, 10:49 AM
 
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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Oh, it definitely translates into Federal jobs paying more because there's a LOT of O&G jobs in Houston, particularly of the higher end engineering variety. I agree that for white-collar jobs outside of O&G there's little difference and I'd expect Dallas to pay a bit more in certain sectors, finance being one of them.

As far as the housing goes, Dallas has always been slightly more expensive from a housing/cost of living perspective, with slightly lower salaries. Now salaries there are trending higher, but housing growth has continued to outpace salary growth in recent years. End of year median housing prices:

DFW-
2000: $132,000
2005: $147,700
2010: $141,400
2015: $173,500
2016: $195,500
2017: $216,100
2018: $240,700
2019 (April): $243,900

Houston-
2000: $126,500
2005: $142,200
2010: $136,900
2015: $171,900
2016: $184,300
2017: $191,400
2018: $204,600
2019 (April): $205,600
Ok, word! Yeah in my experience the jobs pay about the same and I wonder if the average in Houston is higher just because O&G makes up such a large part of the economy it raises the average?
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:32 AM
 
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The water is gross looking, even if it is technically ok.
Just saying there are much more worse looking pictures that could have been chosen.
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:58 AM
 
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Just saying there are much more worse looking pictures that could have been chosen.

I wasn't going for extreme but average and that is Galveston on an average day. I'd rather be floating in a pool of chlorine chemicals than that sludge.


That picture is pretty gross IMO.
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