Texas is not the South but the South wants it to be (Houston: transplants, sale)

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by Enean

Since you can't go any farther south than Texas, without running into Mexico, I would say, by default, that it is southern. I don't get the splitting hairs on this site. Texas is in the south.

Chicago and NYC are both "Northern" cities, but are in different regions, one is Midwestern the other Northeastern. Its comparable with the "south", Texas is directionally southern but a different region than the "Southeast" which is what most people think of when they think of the South.

[C24L]

Originally Posted by walker1962

There is definitely truth in that but the Southern Baptists adherence in Texas the numbers are not nearly as widespread now as it was 60 years ago due to a higher Latino population (Catholic leaning) and more Asian residents. Just look at the fact that Texas is now a majority-minority state in population.

Amarillo as far west as it is I tend to see as being more like New Mexico than Alabama. I could see Abilene as more like the deep south, especially with Abilene Christian University. But Amarillo, well that's a frontier mentality out there with wide open spaces and cattle ranch country.

why do you categorize Abilene as being more like the South due to Abilene Christian University?just wondering.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

I agree. Outside of certain parts of Texas in East Texas, such as Tyler, Nacadoches, Jaspser, etc. Those areas are definitely the South. Houston and Dallas have southern influence without a doubt, being that they're just outside of the area, but aren't primarily southern by any means.

[CCrest182]

Originally Posted by Enean

Since you can't go any farther south than Texas, without running into Mexico, I would say, by default, that it is southern. I don't get the splitting hairs on this site. Texas is in the south.

So by that logic California is southern too, because it borders Mexico? There's almost nothing California and North Carolina have in common, other than the fact "it's warmer on average". They are entirely different worlds. So is most of Texas compared to the rest of the south.

[Enean]

Originally Posted by CCrest182

So by that logic California is southern too, because it borders Mexico? There's almost nothing California and North Carolina have in common, other than the fact "it's warmer on average". They are entirely different worlds. So is most of Texas compared to the rest of the south.

California is west...anyone who doesn't know that, I'm sorry for. Texas is in the middle of the country, as far south as one can go. That's why it's in the south.

[TheOverdog]

California is southern too, because it borders Mexico?

California (at least the south and eastern portions, I haven't spent much time in the northern parts) is way more Southern than most people expect. I'd describe LA as only slightly less Southern than Dallas.

[Treasurevalley92]

Originally Posted by Drewjdeg

Transition from the South to the Southwest. El Paso is definitely not Southern.

Yes, but 80%+ of the people in the state live in the Southern Part. (Texas Triangle and East Texas)

[walker1962]

Originally Posted by C24L

why do you categorize Abilene as being more like the South due to Abilene Christian University?just wondering.

I think ACU's presence in a small city is reflective of it being more religiously influenced than the big cities of Texas. Similarly, I should have mentioned McMurray State as indicative of a conservative, southern character as that Abilene-based college is affiliated with Methodists denomination.

[walker1962]

Originally Posted by JMatl

Thanks! A dose of reality is usually needed when you go down this path, as your poll currently shows pretty clearly.

Well actually the poll as of today shows a leaning away from south-affiliation. 23-19 southern vs Texas uniqueness but than add in the other two options and it skews away from southern inclusion. My point really, is I think the state has factions that think its mainly one or the other but that as time goes by, its skewing two "Uniqueness". That's really something even state government has tried to sell as reflected in its state-sanctioned tourism slogan "Texas, like a whole other country".

[turf3]

Jeez, here we go again with the exact same discussion again.


How many angels, exactly, are dancing on the point of that pin again?