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Old 05-11-2020, 02:46 PM
 
Location: WA
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But what concessions could he be trying to extract out of NV? He didn't post anything negative about them and they already have a gigafactory that is operational again. As for California, he just wants Fremont opened early. There will still be a new Tesla giga factory in Texas. The HQ is more up in the air but that isn't out of the realm of possibility. Believe it or not, a lot of people in California don't think highly of Elon due to his political leanings and willingness to listen to Trump. I have friends who work at SpaceX who literally say they hate Elon.
I'll believe it when I see it. The auto industry generally is going to be in the toilet the next couple of years as people put off purchases of new vehicles due to the economy. And the electric car industry especially, given the current worldwide glut of oil that shows no immediate sign of ending. Who's going to pay a premium for an electric car when gas is $1.50 a gallon? I expect it will be all Tesla can do to keep it's current manufacturing operations going, much less any sort of major expansion.
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Old 05-11-2020, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles-Houston-DFW
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I'll believe it when I see it. The auto industry generally is going to be in the toilet the next couple of years as people put off purchases of new vehicles due to the economy. And the electric car industry especially, given the current worldwide glut of oil that shows no immediate sign of ending. Who's going to pay a premium for an electric car when gas is $1.50 a gallon? I expect it will be all Tesla can do to keep it's current manufacturing operations going, much less any sort of major expansion.
True but part of the point for all this 5G installations is for autonomous vehicles which Tesla is a big part of. Besides, Elon Musk's ventures are funded heavily by the government so I think Tesla will be in "great" (should I say well funded?) hands moving forward. Just think of the name of the company...Tesla...the true genius behind electricity (not Edison), where people literally could have had HDTVs in their homes back in the 50s. A company with that name and govt funding behind it isn't going to go bankrupt. They're the gold standard of electric autonomous vehicles, which is the whole reason why other automakers with electric cars use Tesla-made batteries. Tesla won't be going anywhere.

Say what you want about oil vs. electric, but Tesla makes some nice vehicles. Fast acceleration, comfortable seats, great entertainment features, autopilot, safety, etc. As prices continue to lower their vehicles will become more attractive to people, especially when the solar panels are installed on the cars so it literally charges while driving. If Tesla can get into that 25k-35k range then their sales are going to go through the roof. I mean sales already were before the COVID recession and that's with higher prices.
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Old 05-12-2020, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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The state of TX never even allowed Teslas to be sold at dealerships in the state, why would they allow Elon Musk to build a factory. I reckon he's using this to extract concessions from CA, I just hope CA doesn't fall for it.
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Old 05-12-2020, 08:40 AM
 
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Haven't you people learned yet that it's a common strategy for corporations to threaten to pull out their operations, in order to extract concessions from the states/cities where they're located? Then once the concessions are extracted, that move to Houston (or Austin, or wherever) suddenly doesn't seem so important any more.
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Old 05-12-2020, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles-Houston-DFW
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Haven't you people learned yet that it's a common strategy for corporations to threaten to pull out their operations, in order to extract concessions from the states/cities where they're located? Then once the concessions are extracted, that move to Houston (or Austin, or wherever) suddenly doesn't seem so important any more.
Companies have received concessions and companies have also moved, so...? Again people seem to be confusing a new plant with the HQ move like they're the same thing.
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The state of TX never even allowed Teslas to be sold at dealerships in the state, why would they allow Elon Musk to build a factory. I reckon he's using this to extract concessions from CA, I just hope CA doesn't fall for it.
The state can't do anything to stop Musk from building a factory here. It can refuse to offer incentives, but that's about it. Why should the state be able to stop a factory, unless there's some sort of special environmental hazard?
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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The state can't do anything to stop Musk from building a factory here. It can refuse to offer incentives, but that's about it. Why should the state be able to stop a factory, unless there's some sort of special environmental hazard?
If the state of TX doesn't offer incentives to Elon I guarantee he stays in Fremont.
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:18 AM
 
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^^ Older video, but it helps explain this comment for those of us that don't realize how much lobbying the middlemen car dealerships do to keep their business model alive. Definitely not free market capitalism business friendly environment that Texas touts itself as.
Tesla service center in North Houston


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljhAWyO0lB8
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:29 AM
 
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I hope Tesla comes to San Antonio or one of the border towns as opposed to Houston, Dallas, or Austin
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:47 AM
 
Location: 78745
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Driving distances are just t00 far apart in Texas f0r it t be practic1e
Once driverless cars take over the roadways and 150 mph becomes the speed limit for cars on the higway, which is just around the corner from being a reality, it will take about 95 minutes to drive from Houston to Dallas, 80 minutes to San Antonio, 66 minutes to Austin, and 2 hours to New Orleans. At those speeds, distances become much shorter.
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