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Old 05-11-2020, 12:40 PM
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Rice University has made a convincing argument. Houston has the 2nd largest concentration of engineers in the country. That is precisely what Tesla needs.


https://www.khou.com/mobile/article/...8-bd7d52167d32
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Old 05-11-2020, 12:50 PM
 
Location: WA
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Rice University has made a convincing argument. Houston has the 2nd largest concentration of engineers in the country. That is precisely what Tesla needs.


https://www.khou.com/mobile/article/...8-bd7d52167d32
Just because some local Houston politicians are cheerleading the idea doesn't mean Tesla is coming to Houston. This is the oldest game in the book. Sports teams do it all the time. And remember Amazon's great national search for it's 2nd headquarters? When they ended up just deciding to stay where they already were in Seattle and the DC metro?

I'd lay 10-1 odds that Elon is just playing TX for fools to extract concessions out of CA and NV.
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Old 05-11-2020, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Just because some local Houston politicians are cheerleading the idea doesn't mean Tesla is coming to Houston. This is the oldest game in the book. Sports teams do it all the time. And remember Amazon's great national search for it's 2nd headquarters? When they ended up just deciding to stay where they already were in Seattle and the DC metro?

I'd lay 10-1 odds that Elon is just playing TX for fools to extract concessions out of CA and NV.
Driving distances are just t00 far apart in Texas f0r it t be practic1e
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Old 05-11-2020, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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I'd lay 10-1 odds that Elon is just playing TX for fools to extract concessions out of CA and NV.
This. Keep dreamin'. Texas won't let Musk sell Teslas in the state directly, and the legislature has been downright hostile to the company. They almost made it illegal to service the cars in the state last year. There's no way he's moving Tesla's HQ to Texas unless the state's opposition to his sales model changes.
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Old 05-11-2020, 01:27 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA>Tijuana, BC>San Antonio, TX
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^^ Older video, but it helps explain this comment for those of us that don't realize how much lobbying the middlemen car dealerships do to keep their business model alive. Definitely not free market capitalism business friendly environment that Texas touts itself as.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noqdlCmn4h0
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Old 05-11-2020, 01:49 PM
 
Location: WA
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This. Keep dreamin'. Texas won't let Musk sell Teslas in the state directly, and the legislature has been downright hostile to the company. They almost made it illegal to service the cars in the state last year. There's no way he's moving Tesla's HQ to Texas unless the state's opposition to his sales model changes.
Tesla, unlike more traditional manufacturing companies, is also more highly dependent on its engineers and human capital. They have been able to hire many of the very best. How many of them are going to be willing to move from CA to Houston because Elon is having a temper tantrum, versus just staying home in CA and going to work for Google or Uber or any one of the many other tech companies that are getting into automobile technology and self-driving cars?

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Old 05-11-2020, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles-Houston-DFW
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Just because some local Houston politicians are cheerleading the idea doesn't mean Tesla is coming to Houston. This is the oldest game in the book. Sports teams do it all the time. And remember Amazon's great national search for it's 2nd headquarters? When they ended up just deciding to stay where they already were in Seattle and the DC metro?

I'd lay 10-1 odds that Elon is just playing TX for fools to extract concessions out of CA and NV.
But what concessions could he be trying to extract out of NV? He didn't post anything negative about them and they already have a gigafactory that is operational again. As for California, he just wants Fremont opened early. There will still be a new Tesla giga factory in Texas. The HQ is more up in the air but that isn't out of the realm of possibility. Believe it or not, a lot of people in California don't think highly of Elon due to his political leanings and willingness to listen to Trump. I have friends who work at SpaceX who literally say they hate Elon.
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Old 05-11-2020, 02:18 PM
 
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They have been able to hire many of the very best. How many of them are going to be willing to move from CA to Houston because Elon is having a temper tantrum, versus just staying home in CA
I'm sure many would stay in CA. However, can they be replaced with people who are happy to be in Texas? Austin already is a large technology center. Texas has an excellent university system to produce engineers who are probably happy to be in Texas. I doubt he could or would try to move development in one shot, but over the course of 3-4 years I think he could do it (if he really wants to, and it isn't just trying to pressure the officials in CA).


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I have friends who work at SpaceX who literally say they hate Elon.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, it's a serious question. What does it say about them that they feel this way, and yet they stay? If I genuinely hated (or even disliked) the people or company I worked for, I would move. Life is too short to spend it angry and hating.
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Old 05-11-2020, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles-Houston-DFW
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I'm not trying to be a jerk, it's a serious question. What does it say about them that they feel this way, and yet they stay? If I genuinely hated (or even disliked) the people or company I worked for, I would move. Life is too short to spend it angry and hating.
Because the pay is very good and this is California where COL is expensive. They don't literally hate him every second of their life. They dislike Elon Musk mainly due to politics but respect him for his (government-paid) vision.
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Old 05-11-2020, 02:33 PM
 
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Just because some local Houston politicians are cheerleading the idea doesn't mean Tesla is coming to Houston. This is the oldest game in the book. Sports teams do it all the time. And remember Amazon's great national search for it's 2nd headquarters? When they ended up just deciding to stay where they already were in Seattle and the DC metro?

I'd lay 10-1 odds that Elon is just playing TX for fools to extract concessions out of CA and NV.
I agree, but Amazon didn’t decide to stay. They never said anything about planning to move their HQ. They said they planned to keep the HQ in Seattle and open a satélite HQ elsewhere.
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