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Old 05-22-2020, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Belton, Tx
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Even though the cities are growing at a nice clip, do you think being so close to larger cities like Austin, San Antonio and Dallas/Fort Worth hurts us in the long run? For example with air service, do you think the airports in Killeen or Waco will ever have the chance to expand and potentially reach their full potential or will always be smaller and secondary in reach and scope? Interested in comments not just from current residents of the area but also former residents as well.
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:10 AM
 
Location: College Station, TX
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I lived in and around Temple from 1997-2010. I don't think proximity to metros hurts the W/T/K area. To the contrary, I think it helps. Not everyone wants to deal with the 1.2 million population of Austin, let alone San Antonio and/or DFW.
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Old 05-23-2020, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Waco, TX
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The Tri-Cities (Temple/Killeen/Belton) is growing like wild fire. Waco, not so much. It will remain a backwater afterthought due to the power clans wanting to keep it a 'quaint little town with a university.' Eventually, the Tri-Cities will merge with north Austin locales to become one.
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Old 05-23-2020, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Belton, Tx
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I've been here just a little over a year. I like that the area is growing though having to go to Austin for better airline connections is a little inconvenient, it could be a lot worse.
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Old 05-23-2020, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Belton, Tx
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The Tri-Cities (Temple/Killeen/Belton) is growing like wild fire. Waco, not so much. It will remain a backwater afterthought due to the power clans wanting to keep it a 'quaint little town with a university.' Eventually, the Tri-Cities will merge with north Austin locales to become one.
I agree. The last time I went to Austin I definitely saw the growth inching south from Killeen/Temple Belton. The KBT metro area currently sits at 455,000 and projected to pass 500,000 by 2030.
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Old 05-23-2020, 02:42 PM
 
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i like backwater town - very little traffic - still has the stores we like and dallas and austin are a couple hours away

everyone waves to each other and very few homeless in downtown -
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Old 05-24-2020, 11:01 PM
 
Location: WA
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Judging from the amount of new construction around Waco, it is growing at a pretty good clip and the latest metro population estimate is about 275,000. How much faster do you want it to grow?

I'd much rather live in Waco than Killeen or Temple. Is that even a question?

I'm not sure what "full potential" you expect out of Waco or Temple. They will never be major metro areas like Austin or Fort Worth. That ship sailed 100 years ago. I would think Waco has the most potential of the three mostly due to Baylor.

If you are dying to live in a larger city the solution is to move, not expect Waco or Temple to change all that much in the next 20 years or so. Temple is almost 70 miles from Austin. It isn't merging into the Austin metro area any time in this century. That's not to say there won't be increasing development along the I-35 corridor. But Temple isn't going to be part of "greater Austin" anytime soon.
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Old 05-25-2020, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Belton, Tx
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Well my question wasn't whether Waco, Killeen or Temple were going to be big cities or even want to. I was asking if being so close to larger cities like Austin hurts it or blocks it potential. By potential I mean not just population but other things. For example services like airports. Do you think the Killeen or Waco airports would be more important/bigger if not being so relatively close to Austin or would it's scope be limited regardless?
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Old 05-25-2020, 07:50 PM
 
Location: WA
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Well my question wasn't whether Waco, Killeen or Temple were going to be big cities or even want to. I was asking if being so close to larger cities like Austin hurts it or blocks it potential. By potential I mean not just population but other things. For example services like airports. Do you think the Killeen or Waco airports would be more important/bigger if not being so relatively close to Austin or would it's scope be limited regardless?
Definitely helps being close to larger cities.

For example, both Waco and Temple have become major distribution centers for Texas due to their central location near all four large TX metro areas. A few years ago Caterpillar built a massive parts distribution center in Waco so that they could supply their dealers in DFW, Austin, and Houston easily. The south end of Waco is full of other similar distribution centers for other companies. Likewise, Temple has big distribution centers for Wal-Mart and other businesses..

If you were to push Waco or Temple way out in the middle of nowhere you would basically have a place like say Wichita Falls, which is much less interesting and vibrant. And a lot of the businesses in Waco and Temple would vanish because they depend on closer access to the other major metro areas.

Honestly the airport isn't really that big of a deal. DFW and Austin are both easy drives from Waco and it is usually faster to make the drive rather than start your journey in Waco and connect in DFW or Houston. When we lived in Waco there as a period of time when I was flying out for work every couple weeks or so. I usually just drove to DFW rather than fly out of Waco because it was easier and more convenient. I'd always end up getting back to DFW and then having a 3 hour layover until my connecting flight back to Waco and end up getting home hours later than if I had just gotten my car at DFW and drove home.
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Old 05-27-2020, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Waco, TX
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Judging from the amount of new construction around Waco, it is growing at a pretty good clip and the latest metro population estimate is about 275,000. How much faster do you want it to grow?
Your numbers are exaggerated. 140k poulation tops, to include suburbs. Considering 50 years ago population hovered around 95k, that's not much progress. Most of that increase is simply spreading out, and influx from south of the border. One mall dies, another replaces it; and adding a couple of distribution centers doesn't mean growth. That Caterpillar plant isn't a huge employer in terms of employees on the floor.


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Temple is almost 70 miles from Austin. It isn't merging into the Austin metro area any time in this century. That's not to say there won't be increasing development along the I-35 corridor. But Temple isn't going to be part of "greater Austin" anytime soon.
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I did not say the Tri-cities was going to merge with greater Austin. Again, you exaggerate. I said the Tri-cities would merge with the northern locales, eventually. Temple is not reaching northward, at all. Developers do see possibilities southward. Simple logic.

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