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Old 06-18-2020, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Houston
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There's no question that some conservatives are hypocritical around this issue. I say so what? And using your point people on the other side throw this kind of thing out there to shut down meaningful discussion. Most on the left are fantastically adept at ending reasonable discussion around tough topics as a political tool.
That's why they should be excluded, and policy makers need to just move on without them.
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Old 06-18-2020, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Also, Republican politicians show that they can be bought by big ag, construction, and big food when they start to enact regulations then pull back because the big $ lobbyists show up.

Though honestly, the state should be doing anything with immigration. It's one of the few things that should be relegated to the Feds. And despite the frustration from the citizenry, the state should really stay out of it.
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Old 06-19-2020, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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Average everyday people acting smartly and wisely ultimately counts more than the two dumb parties and their overblown, hot-winded proponents. No need to dumb ourselves down to their pathetic level. We need to work on the quality of the people, not the worthless landscape of the political.
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Old 06-19-2020, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Average everyday people acting smartly and wisely ultimately counts more than the two dumb parties and their overblown, hot-winded proponents. No need to dumb ourselves down to their pathetic level. We need to work on the quality of the people, not the worthless landscape of the political.
What a worthless sentiment. How do you propose people work together to collectively improve themselves?
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Old 06-19-2020, 09:20 AM
 
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Average everyday people acting smartly and wisely ultimately counts more than the two dumb parties and their overblown, hot-winded proponents. No need to dumb ourselves down to their pathetic level. We need to work on the quality of the people, not the worthless landscape of the political.
That's pretty talk but very naive. Tax policy in particular is a critical to every person and family.
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Old 06-24-2020, 08:39 AM
 
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same ol response that republicans want cheep labor. wrong we want skilled or people who can be toughed to do a job well, work hard, show up on time, not take drugs, call in sick for bs toothaches and grow with a company.

the cost to hire and train workers so out paces a few bucks per hour as anyone who had a business knows. and since your have never had to hire train and retain workers you would not know.

illegals only keep the cost of hamburger flipper or car washer or pickers jobs wages at bay to a point. even those jobs need people to show up - work hard and do a good job- any skilled or even skilled job employees would be happy to pay more for a employee that can speak english, work hard come to work every day.
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Old 06-24-2020, 08:43 AM
 
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another thing when these transplant see their checks without state taxes taken out or high taxes for unemployment, or see gas prices, cost of housing compared to other states do you think they will vote to loose more of there income to the leftist politicians?

my kids friends all complain about taxes and take home pay and they are 30 somethings and i think OMG maybe there is hope after all - but again they all have jobs and work hard and dont have their hands out wanting free crap
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Old 06-24-2020, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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same ol response that republicans want cheep labor. wrong we want skilled or people who can be toughed to do a job well, work hard, show up on time, not take drugs, call in sick for bs toothaches and grow with a company.

the cost to hire and train workers so out paces a few bucks per hour as anyone who had a business knows. and since your have never had to hire train and retain workers you would not know.

illegals only keep the cost of hamburger flipper or car washer or pickers jobs wages at bay to a point. even those jobs need people to show up - work hard and do a good job- any skilled or even skilled job employees would be happy to pay more for a employee that can speak english, work hard come to work every day.
So, you prefer hire an illegal immigrant than an America from what is seems.
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Old 06-24-2020, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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So, you prefer hire an illegal immigrant than an America from what is seems.
That was literally my exact thought.
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Old 06-25-2020, 06:39 AM
 
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So, you prefer hire an illegal immigrant than an America from what is seems.
where did i say that? no i want legal citizens to get all the jobs - i said the old leftist statement about republicans wanting cheep labor is all bs its same crap that republicans want dirty water and air and that our grandparents will only survive eating dog food
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