Texas turning blue.... (West, Howe: 2014, schools, salary)

[S.Allen]

I began life being more left, but started a business, bought a house and had kids and if that does not get you to lean more right...I do not know what to tell you.


The democrat party is a modern day plantation for black people. They have done literally nothing FOR them but claim to care and pander to them and the majority just sit back and eat it up. They buy the race division and class division nonsense decade after decade.

[redguard57]

Originally Posted by LocalPlanner

I'm speaking specifically of a wealth tax. We have taxes on what you EARN, and what you CONSUME / USE (sales and property taxes for example), but a tax on just having possession of things of financial value? How is that not massive overreach? Let alone saying that simple accumulation of such things is somehow a wrong. That is NOT America, sorry.

When that kinds of stuff are proposed, the consequences need to be clear and swift. And the Democrats didn't do anything.

Uhhh, property taxes fit that definition, and we have things like higher property taxes for 2nd homes. I don't think that kind of thing will run afoul of the constitution.

[Andtheblack]

First it was integration. Conservatives didn’t like that
Multiculturalism was next. Conservatives didn’t like that
Next came diversity. Conservatives didn’t like that.
The government instituted a remedy to address past discrimination called affirmative action. Conservatives lost their minds about that
Black people created ACORN to expand the voter franchise. Conservatives hated that
Stacey Abram created Fair Fight. Conservatives are opposed to that
When Derek Bell, Delgado and other scholars expanded on critical theory to include race, the entire right wing establishment reacted much as it did when attempting to sabotage integration, multiculturalism, diversity,
AA, ACORN, CRT and anything else that is viewed as providing uplift to communities of color.


It seems to me when black people demonstrate free agency over their lives and institutions, it evokes a certain kind of anxiety in some that causes then to try and control what they don’t understand, and failing that, they seek to destroy what they can’t control. Why is that?

[LocalPlanner]

Originally Posted by redguard57

Uhhh, property taxes fit that definition, and we have things like higher property taxes for 2nd homes. I don't think that kind of thing will run afoul of the constitution.

You consume property. It also receives government services directly tied to that property's location. And if it's part of your wealth, then you already pay taxes on it - the property taxes you mention.

That's very different from taxing the amassing of stock options, gold, money market accounts, and yes, real property, which in theory should already have paid taxes from either having earned the income to acquire them or consumption taxes from consuming / using them.

You cannot justify wealth taxes. The very idea is appalling. Warren should have been expelled.

[S.Allen]

Originally Posted by Andtheblack

First it was integration. Conservatives didn’t like that
Multiculturalism was next. Conservatives didn’t like that
Next came diversity. Conservatives didn’t like that.
The government instituted a remedy to address past discrimination called affirmative action. Conservatives lost their minds about that
Black people created ACORN to expand the voter franchise. Conservatives hated that
Stacey Abram created Fair Fight. Conservatives are opposed to that
When Derek Bell, Delgado and other scholars expanded on critical theory to include race, the entire right wing establishment reacted much as it did when attempting to sabotage integration, multiculturalism, diversity,
AA, ACORN, CRT and anything else that is viewed as providing uplift to communities of color.


It seems to me when black people demonstrate free agency over their lives and institutions, it evokes a certain kind of anxiety in some that causes then to try and control what they don’t understand, and failing that, they seek to destroy what they can’t control. Why is that?

To say "conservatives do not like diversity" is stereotyping an entire section of our society. Haven't you had enough of that? I guess not. You seem to be all about diversity of skin color but not diversity of thought. That is a tragedy.

I consider myself right of center and honestly, I do not care what color people are, but rely on their character (or lack thereof) to make my judgements about them.



Critical race theory is basically reverse racism and does nobody any real good in the end. It is destructive and divisive and serves no real purpose.



Perhaps it is high time to stop blaming conservatives or white people for your failures....it is getting old.

[Sydney123]

They were just holding their breath when Harris was in town.

[Andtheblack]

Originally Posted by S.Allen

To say "conservatives do not like diversity" is stereotyping an entire section of our society. Haven't you had enough of that? I guess not. You seem to be all about diversity of skin color but not diversity of thought. That is a tragedy.

I consider myself right of center and honestly, I do not care what color people are, but rely on their character (or lack thereof) to make my judgements about them.



Critical race theory is basically reverse racism and does nobody any real good in the end. It is destructive and divisive and serves no real purpose.



Perhaps it is high time to stop blaming conservatives or white people for your failures....it is getting old.

Where did you get your information about CRT?

[redguard57]

Originally Posted by LocalPlanner

You consume property. It also receives government services directly tied to that property's location. And if it's part of your wealth, then you already pay taxes on it - the property taxes you mention.

That's very different from taxing the amassing of stock options, gold, money market accounts, and yes, real property, which in theory should already have paid taxes from either having earned the income to acquire them or consumption taxes from consuming / using them.

You cannot justify wealth taxes. The very idea is appalling. Warren should have been expelled.

So I guess I can just ask my employer to pay me in bullion or stock, then I get to pay zero tax!

[LocalPlanner]

Originally Posted by redguard57

So I guess I can just ask my employer to pay me in bullion or stock, then I get to pay zero tax!

No, under our current system, you pay INCOME tax on that - once. With a WEALTH tax, you could potentially pay tax on it again, year after year, for no good reason. And government-mandated wealth redistribution is NOT a good reason.

[apple92680]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

What we need to do is stop throwing money at the military and then we wouldnt need as much in tax.

Republicans are every bit as hard for socialism as the Democrats. Its just a different type of socialism. They like corporate welfare and stupid amounts of money for defense contractors. Those are welfare jobs programs just as were the New Deal programs, they just serve a different purpose. We do not nearly what we have in the military. We could cut it by half and still have the best military in the world.

For the record, Im against all of it. Im happy to cut some welfare spending but it needs to go both ways.

The three pillars of the American Welfare State:

1.) The US Military
2.) Social Security
3.) Medicare / Medicaid

Touch one of them and suggest a "cut" of any kind, and it's a deadly third rail.

The US Military, whether we want to admit it or not, serves as a defacto trade school for lots of young men and women who cannot afford college, but need to acquire an important skill set.

It also puts food on lots of American tables through defense contracts and support of engineering and tech research/work.

I'm not pro-war and I am relatively liberal on most issues, but I am not anti-military because I see the benefits it provides.