Not a great sign for the Texas is turning Blue crowd. (Austin: middle-class, safe)

[silas777]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

No, you havent provided anything of the sort. What you have provided are very specific and anecdotal stories. You have not shown what percentage of Texas residents have shifted their voting patterns from one party to the other. Thats whats relevant.

Ive never said Texas is going blue. You have said Texas is becoming more red. The later isnt a true statement. Any sort of anecdotes you or I can provide dont matter. What does matter is voting patterns and data. Thats publicly available, though I guess youve never looked at it. AGAIN the trend in Texas is the same as it is in EVERY OTHER STATE. Urban areas and suburbs are going more blue and places with high levels of blue collar workers and smaller towns and cities are going more red.

As for my "bigotry" towards Christianity, when you have as much blood on your hands as Christianity and Islam do, there is no need to justify rightful hatred towards the doctrines while still recognizing their followers are a diverse crowd and should be treated as individuals. Unlike 90% of Christians, Ive read the Bible cover to cover. I know what it says and all of the horrible things justified in it that most people turn a blind eye to. Thats why when former slave owners and segregationists used the Bible to justify their horrible deeds, people try to say they were "misusing it" when in fact their were Biblically correct in it.

But as you say, this isnt about how I feel about it but you did miss my larger point: being a Republican on the Coasts is not about religious affiliation whereas in Texas the two are intertwined. That turns a lot of transplants off.

Please.. I never said anything about Texas turning red and I never said anything regarding "what you said". Never posted anecdotes.
This thread isn't about you. It is regarding the "Conventional wisdom" that the state is going blue. you can pretend or deny that isn't real and I can understand why someone such as yourself would but it doesn't change the fact a simple internet search can provide all the evidence of it.
I am providing evidence to the contrary right now.
How much money democrats are willing to pour in for O'Rourke will be a huge indicator of whether the party believes it or not.
FYI, I used to be a Republican on the coast. The difference isn't in Republicans its in locations. There is barely a Republican party left in Ca. A Conservative Christian could never get elected anywhere on the left coast because it is populated with people such as yourself. God Bless Texas!

[jbgusa]

Texas was the only state entirely west of the Mississippi River to vote for Carter in 1976, the year that he won. Texas really went from purple to red after the 1976 election.

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by silas777

FYI, I used to be a Republican on the coast. The difference isn't in Republicans its in locations. There is barely a Republican party left in Ca. A Conservative Christian could never get elected anywhere on the left coast because it is populated with people such as yourself. God Bless Texas!

There is barely a Republican Party left in California? Do you actually look these things up before writing such nonsense? There are lots of Christian conservatives in state government in California, they just arent elected on a statewide basis. Same with liberals in Texas.

Trump got MORE VOTES IN CALIFORNIA than any other state in the US including Texas. Yes of course thats because its the biggest state, but that certainly proves the notion that there is no Republican Party left in California false. Over 6 million Californians voted for Trump. Over 5 million Texans voted for Biden. Maybe we shouldnt try and pigeonhole entire states into one thing.

I dont know how many times I have to keep beating this drum but I will do it for eternity if I have to: the trends are the same in Texas as any other state. The odds of electing a Christian conservative to do anything in a county wide election in Travis, Harris, Dallas, or El Paso counties arent much higher than in Coastal California. Its because people here are cut from the same cloth as other urban areas. This isnt about states, its a rural/urban divide.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

I saw people earlier Blamed Texas blue shift on the so called “blue companies” entering Texas. This isn’t the reason. Perhaps it accounts for some new Texas blue voters but it’s a mere fraction of the new blue voters.

The main reason is the constant bad reception Abbott, Cruz, Dan Patrick and co are getting.

[silas777]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

There is barely a Republican Party left in California? Do you actually look these things up before writing such nonsense?
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As of last year 2020. Not a single Republican statewide office holder. Democrats have supermajorities in both houses of the legislature and held 46 of 53 congressional seats. I think you get my drift. It is essentially single party rule . Basically the same as the Democrat party in the pre-civil rights south.

[silas777]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

I saw people earlier Blamed Texas blue shift on the so called “blue companies” entering Texas. This isn’t the reason. Perhaps it accounts for some new Texas blue voters but it’s a mere fraction of the new blue voters.

The main reason is the constant bad reception Abbott, Cruz, Dan Patrick and co are getting.

Nonsense. It is plain and simple as above so below stated. It is a demographic shift. "City folk"!
An average of 70,000 people a year have relocated to Texas from California for the last 10 years climbing upwards of 80,000 per year. You do the math. Now granted that doesn't necessarily mean their all commie-libs . For the most part they middle class refugees.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by silas777

Nonsense. It is plain and simple as above so below stated. It is a demographic shift. "City folk"!
An average of 70,000 people a year have relocated to Texas from California for the last 10 years climbing upwards of 80,000 per year. You do the math. Now granted that doesn't necessarily mean their all commie-libs . For the most part they middle class refugees.

Cool story. Now explain why Beto beat out Cruz for the Native Texans vote

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/poli...outputType=amp

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

Cool story. Now explain why Beto beat out Cruz for the Native Texans vote

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/poli...outputType=amp

For some reason I get the feeling that the 'native-to-texas' vs 'moved-to-texas' is a larger political debate among Texans rather than who the next governor is going to be.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

For some reason I get the feeling that the 'native-to-texas' vs 'moved-to-texas' is a larger political debate among Texans rather than who the next governor is going to be.

Well, from a data perspective, the biggest problem I’m seeing in these threads is that people are paying too much attention to specifics. For example, Silas pointed out the mass Califorbia migration. You focus so much on California, you forget they there’s 49 other states that overall produce net positive migration to Texas. Not that the specifics don’t deserve attention. But if you only pay attention to one or two things, you miss the full picture.

[silas777]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

Well, from a data perspective, the biggest problem I’m seeing in these threads is that people are paying too much attention to specifics. For example, Silas pointed out the mass Califorbia migration. You focus so much on California, you forget they there’s 49 other states that overall produce net positive migration to Texas. Not that the specifics don’t deserve attention. But if you only pay attention to one or two things, you miss the full picture.

Yeah , you lost me. I don't forget ... perhaps I needed to be more specific with the addition of "And this is just California, not to mention the influx from the other 49 states"
It doesn't change anything I said, rather it just solidifies it.
Like I said we will see if Bobby O'Rourke draws as much attention and money from the party this time around or do they take a hard pass like they are in Fl. Remains to be seen but it will certainly be a bell weather either way. Seems to me his 15 minutes are up and Abbott will beat him sitting down. But then I never thought Biden or Obama would be president so what do I know.