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View Poll Results: Should Texas keep "Confederate Heroes Day" as a state holiday?
Yes 19 28.36%
No 48 71.64%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-25-2022, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Of course not. I wasn't responding to your words so much as the sentiment that the Civil War is in the past and should stay there (except when it comes to state holidays I suppose). I was more responding to your post to make my own separate point.

But we do very much pick and choose which points of history we choose to honor and enforce. We treat the 2nd Amendment as inviolate. But much more recent Indian Treaties, which according to the same constitution are the highest law of the land? Or the Federal slavery reparations of 40 acres and a mule signed by General Sherman in 1865? Not so much. Or, for that matter, the 14th, and 15th Amendments? Took us about 100 years to finally get around to enforcing those and still even grudgingly to this day.

Well, I wasn't alive (nor was anyone else I know alive) in the 1800s and I don't begrudgingly enforce any law of the land. Prior to me coming of age (1980) I really didn't have any power to enforce or change any laws. I am only responsible for my own actions. And I never owned any slaves, and have never to my recollection ever treated anyone differently than how I want to be treated.
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Old 01-25-2022, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I think the old horse has died on this one....
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Old 01-25-2022, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I think the old horse has died on this one....
Yes, quite.

Speaking of race, I just went to the theater last night and saw A Journal for Jordan. It was a mostly African American cast and directed by Denzel Washington. It's a true story. It didn't make an issue of race much (other than when it was a part of the true story, which wasn't very much of the story and had nothing to do with the main story line). And all the people in the theater were white, and didn't look Hispanic either, though of course I know they might have been - but not likely since here in Texas most Hispanics look, well, Hispanic.

Anyway, not a single African American person in the entire theater from what I could see, and we're about 24 percent African American. In retrospect I find that interesting though it was on a rainy Monday night and the theater wasn't crowded.

By the way, the movie was excellent and I highly recommend it. And Michael B Jordan was gorgeous in it. I doubt anyone thought otherwise.
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Old 01-25-2022, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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Face it (somehow), they lost. It was destined to end, and progress had to move forward. Stop looking backwards and crying in your Bud Lite. It's an embarrASSment.
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Old 01-25-2022, 10:20 AM
 
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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Happy Traitors and Losers Day I guess.
Always taking the high road, right Richard !
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Old 01-25-2022, 08:27 PM
 
Location: WA
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Well, I wasn't alive (nor was anyone else I know alive) in the 1800s and I don't begrudgingly enforce any law of the land. Prior to me coming of age (1980) I really didn't have any power to enforce or change any laws. I am only responsible for my own actions. And I never owned any slaves, and have never to my recollection ever treated anyone differently than how I want to be treated.
When I use the term 'we' I am, of course, referring to American society collectively, not you personally.
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Old 01-25-2022, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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'Confederate hero' is an oxymoron....
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Old 01-26-2022, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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When I use the term 'we' I am, of course, referring to American society collectively, not you personally.
Thanks for the clarification but I take it personally since you were addressing me personally.

And I am making the very specific point that I - and many other Americans - don't take amendments lightly, not any of them. So I don't like being lumped into a group who DOES take them lightly.
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Old 01-26-2022, 04:26 PM
 
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Yes, quite.

Speaking of race, I just went to the theater last night and saw A Journal for Jordan. It was a mostly African American cast and directed by Denzel Washington. It's a true story. It didn't make an issue of race much (other than when it was a part of the true story, which wasn't very much of the story and had nothing to do with the main story line). And all the people in the theater were white, and didn't look Hispanic either, though of course I know they might have been - but not likely since here in Texas most Hispanics look, well, Hispanic.

Anyway, not a single African American person in the entire theater from what I could see, and we're about 24 percent African American. In retrospect I find that interesting though it was on a rainy Monday night and the theater wasn't crowded.

By the way, the movie was excellent and I highly recommend it. And Michael B Jordan was gorgeous in it. I doubt anyone thought otherwise.
I would wager the hispanics in Texas look less hispanic on average than hispanics in other states, besides maybe New Mexico.
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Old 01-26-2022, 05:31 PM
 
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Anyway, not a single African American person in the entire theater from what I could see, and we're about 24 percent African American. In retrospect I find that interesting though it was on a rainy Monday night and the theater wasn't crowded.
I guess I just see the World differently .., I don’t count the number of people at the theater that are the same color as the people in the movie I’m watching.
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