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Old 05-03-2022, 02:12 AM
 
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California actually doesn’t gerrymander. Their districts are drawn by a non partisan commission. If you had researched properly, you would have mentioned Maryland or Illinois which are two blue states that gerrymander as bad as Texas.
Why would I need to research? The original comment was made in reference to California. Again, did you bother to read the posts?
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Old 05-03-2022, 02:13 AM
 
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Because California is a liberal state. Surely you should be able to figure that out.

Here is a fun exercise. Have a look at the congressional districts in California:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Califo...h_Congress.tif

Now look at the ones from Texas:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pagecgd113_tx.pdf

Now for some education to you. California's districts are drawn by a commission of 5 democrats, 5 Republicans, and 4 from neither party:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Califo...ing_Commission

In Texas they are drawn solely by the ruling party.

So yeah, there ACTUALLY isnt gerrymandering in California. The fact that youre uneducated about it doesnt make your opinions true. If a person wanted to make a show of Democratic gerrymandering, there are options. Illinois and Maryland as I mentioned. But they had to choose the one state where it actually isnt a thing. All because the disdain for California is so strong that you simply attach the things you hate to it. All it did was prove how little you actually know about it.

There is PLENTY to criticize about the California state government just as there is for Texas. You happened to pick one of the few issues where there ISNT a comparison.
Apparently it was too hard to figure out
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Old 05-03-2022, 02:19 AM
 
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Or paid attention to the fact that more people voted for the orange freak in CA than anywhere else - with the lowest overall % turnout due to apathy.
Yet another absolutely foolish comment. California has a population of 39 million. You get a paltry 1/3 of the votes and you still get more than most states. You're in the theatre of the absurd now if you truly think a Republican was going to win a presidential election in California (but that's been pretty clear since the last two pages of ridiculous comments).
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Old 05-03-2022, 06:52 AM
 
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Forgot to include this in the previous comment.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lat...on%3f_amp=true

About 55% of the state is registered to vote (just an aside, Texas had less registered voters in 2020).

https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...oters-by-state

Again, theatre of the absurd

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Old 05-03-2022, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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Uh huh, and who's fault is that? Last I checked, anyone that registers to vote, can. If you truly think there are 70-80% of people who would change things, why don't they vote? They can look in the mirror if they want to complain and then don't vote. My guess is it wouldn't matter if 100% voted. You call it apathy. I say most of those people are quite pleased at the government they're getting. As long as it serves their best interests. Just like the current economy doesn't suit the interest of renters and people that haven't improved their status level and therefore they complain the loudest. As a homeowner with 2 houses that have plenty of equity and a family income that has improved, I couldn't be happier.
When people say Californians are out of touch, this is what they mean right there in the bolded. Sometimes I wonder if folks who claim things like this ever get out of their social circle or talk to people from other socio-economic classes. You can have multiple houses across the nation and bring in over $200k annually in passive income, but you should still be able to see how the current economic situation is really giving it to the middle/working class, especially in high cost areas like California. The same divide is popping up everywhere now.
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Old 05-03-2022, 08:53 AM
 
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California is ignorant Texans boogeyman
I bet most of the people that go around talking trash about California have never visited California.
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Old 05-03-2022, 09:01 AM
 
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I wouldn’t call them ignorant. I’m well into the six figure range in a tech role and I’ve been to California plenty of times but as it currently stands I have no real desire to live there. I think it’s over priced, over populated and has too many problems between natural disasters, homelessness, and decriminalization of things that should still be criminalized.

Corporations moving from CA to TX are doing so because it makes financial sense. Less taxes, less government (who takes from the people and businesses but does not give back to society). By no means are these people ignorant. They are making preferential choices based on the living conditions between these two states.
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Old 05-03-2022, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I wouldn’t call them ignorant. I’m well into the six figure range in a tech role and I’ve been to California plenty of times but as it currently stands I have no real desire to live there. I think it’s over priced, over populated and has too many problems between natural disasters, homelessness, and decriminalization of things that should still be criminalized.

Corporations moving from CA to TX are doing so because it makes financial sense. Less taxes, less government (who takes from the people and businesses but does not give back to society). By no means are these people ignorant. They are making preferential choices based on the living conditions between these two states.
While I'm sure quite a few find the taxation and regulatory environment in TX much better than CA, I think many also move so that their employees (both current and those they want to attract in the future) can afford housing and a better standard of living. (Of course, as I've noted many times, the poor policies of the CA governments share a good deal of blame for high housing costs there.)
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Old 05-03-2022, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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While I'm sure quite a few find the taxation and regulatory environment in TX much better than CA, I think many also move so that their employees (both current and those they want to attract in the future) can afford housing and a better standard of living. (Of course, as I've noted many times, the poor policies of the CA governments share a good deal of blame for high housing costs there.)
We moved to Texas because we wanted to buy a house in a neighborhood we liked. That was literally the only reason. The state politics in Texas suck, but they arent any better in California. Politics is a small price to pay for being in a city we love, in a neighborhood we love, for a relatively low price. Besides politics now is basically a choice between a Trump personality cult and Bible Thumping social conservative garbage vs. over-regulation and cozying up to socialism. Both suck so horribly so I cant win almost anywhere on a political level.

Would we have stayed in California if we could have had the same? Of course. We both grew up there. It would have been much easier. That said, weve now been here since 2011. Its home now. So even if we could afford a house under the same circumstances in California, I doubt wed move at this point. I blame the NIMBY attitude that is so much more prevalent in California as opposed to Texas combined with the desirability of Coastal California (relative to anywhere in Texas) for the high costs more than the politics. The over-regulation just makes a bad situation a bit worse but it didnt create it. Hell, when I was growing up, California was the land of Reagan.
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Old 05-03-2022, 11:58 AM
 
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While I'm sure quite a few find the taxation and regulatory environment in TX much better than CA, I think many also move so that their employees (both current and those they want to attract in the future) can afford housing and a better standard of living. (Of course, as I've noted many times, the poor policies of the CA governments share a good deal of blame for high housing costs there.)
That all fits into the over priced category.
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