Why are Texans moving to Montana and other northern states? (Dallas: apartment, mover)

[supfromthesite]

Originally Posted by NDak15

Is Texas really turning that blue?

What I really meant is they are trying to get away from all the growth, not necessarily politics.

[elan]

One of my kids moved to Montana and lived there for two years. Helped manage a couple of ski resorts and some properties. They are back in Texas now raising a family. I can't answer for everybody, but perhaps some want a bit of an adventure.

[TXsterling]

Texas has no future, is why 3rd, 4th, and 5th generation families are leaving. If one doesn’t own an income property then there’s nothing to defend against the 3rd World it’s rapidly becoming.

No one lived here — in a manner of speaking — prior to central A/C. That’s day before yesterday. Texas was (is) an agricultural colony featuring timber, cotton and cattle. Oil & gas changed that for some, but ownership of the rights doesn’t live here.

Todays high schools don’t educate past what 6th graders learned as late as the 1960s. The majority of “students” aren’t capable of it. Tax-payer daycare with sports teams.

This is known as, the hand-writing on the wall. Perfectly clear to those who believe their children and children’s children future matters.

“The USA”, were there an invading army in a war, would win once the Bos-Wash corridor and out along the Ohio to the Falls plus the Great Lakes were taken.

The rest of the country matters very little. A few ports, a few local advantages. Nothing serious.

The best farmland, water and ALL the important manufacturing is in the above zone.

Don’t mistake todays politics for what really matters.

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[jaysan89]

Originally Posted by TXsterling

Texas has no future, is why 3rd, 4th, and 5th generation families are leaving. If one doesn’t own an income property then there’s nothing to defend against the 3rd World it’s rapidly becoming.

No one lived here — in a manner of speaking — prior to central A/C. That’s day before yesterday. Texas was (is) an agricultural colony featuring timber, cotton and cattle. Oil & gas changed that for some, but ownership of the rights doesn’t live here.

Todays high schools don’t educate past what 6th graders learned as late as the 1960s. The majority of “students” aren’t capable of it. Tax-payer daycare with sports teams.

This is known as, the hand-writing on the wall. Perfectly clear to those who believe their children and children’s children future matters.

“The USA”, were there an invading army in a war, would win once the Bos-Wash corridor and out along the Ohio to the Falls plus the Great Lakes were taken.

The rest of the country matters very little. A few ports, a few local advantages. Nothing serious.

The best farmland, water and ALL the important manufacturing is in the above zone.

Don’t mistake todays politics for what really matters.

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Sad, but true. That is why I left TX in October 2021.

[Seguinite]

Originally Posted by supfromthesite

.... PS. San Antonio is only the 7th biggest city because of annexation. Atlanta metro is way bigger than San Antonio yet Atlanta as a city is what, a quarter the size of San Antonio population wise? You should look at metro size, not city size.

Maybe you should have said that to begin with.

Originally Posted by jaysan89

Sad, but true. That is why I left TX in October 2021.

I was a few months ahead of you. After 40+ years, always I figured I'd die there. Don't miss it.

[Thoreau424]

Originally Posted by NDak15

I've heard Montana has seen an influx of Texans moving there. I'm curious what is drawing Texans to the state. Other than it being conservative it's very different in climate and culture. I've also heard Texans are moving to the Black Hills.

But are they staying? Colorado has a lot of influx from Texans too, but also a lot of outflux, as people find out that state isn't what they were expecting. The net result is what matters, and tells the story, not just one side of it.

Post #32 above is an example of what I'm talking about. They may have moved to MT, but they later moved back to TX, so it didn't stick. Sometimes the image of grass greener elsewhere doesn't actually pan out upon closer inspection.

[StealthRabbit]

Texans trashed Colorado last century.
On to greater (and few) remaining places.

It's very Texan. And very common to current generation.

Rape pillage, destroy... Move on.
Centuries of history will repeat, while opportunities to exploit still exist.

One only needs to look around Europe or Asia (and South America and Africa) to see the history and where we're headed.

Many previously plush and rich environments are barren and eroded land. (And PRIVATE, if Texas has anything to do with it).

[rynetwo]

Originally Posted by NDak15

???

He never adds anything to threads.

[rynetwo]

Originally Posted by supfromthesite

Austin, Dallas, Houston, Washington DC, Denver, and some southern cities. Out of all the people I graduated high school with about half a decade ago I would say maybe 20-30% currently live in San Antonio.

Obviously Austin isn't bigger but it has way more young people so most young people would rather live there.

Obviously it is different depending on what high school you went to. Some high schools are mostly people that never left town.

Lots of growth in San Antonio is from military, people from other states moving here, retirees, and maybe the biggest growth is from people from south Texas moving here. A lot of people that grow up near the border or in rural south Texas have the life goal to move to San Antonio, and often do.

PS. San Antonio is only the 7th biggest city because of annexation. Atlanta metro is way bigger than San Antonio yet Atlanta as a city is what, a quarter the size of San Antonio population wise? You should look at metro size, not city size.

Wrong. Just as many move out as move in unless you are talking retired military.

Correct Our largest contributing county(s) is LA, San Diego, and Maricopa, then all the valley counties follow close behind.

Correct, but it is still the 23-25 largest metro tracking with Charlotte and Orlando depending on the year. All grow between 36-60k a year.

[rynetwo]

2022 Populations

State, 2022 Population, Change from 2020
California, 39,029,342, -508,903
Colorado, 5,839,926, 66,193
Montana, 1,122,867, 38,670
Texas, 30,029,572, 884,144

Can more move out? We are really full in the big 4. So maybe it is time to pave over west Texas.