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Old 10-28-2022, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I would love for casinos to come to Texas but fear politicians and lobbyist would ruin the process. The tax money would never be spent as promised and politicians would be lining their pockets.
Always a risk...and Ferttita won't hesitate to throw $ around at politicians to get what he wants.
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Old 10-28-2022, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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I know for a fact that that isn’t true. Based off of the people I know from Citgo, I have seen what some of their contracted employees make. It’s just not the American citizens that work those jobs. It’s also not a coincidence that the same phenomenon goes in casino employees. Perks of being a former Lake Charles resident where these are the two main industries of the area.

The only difference that you’re emphasizing the lower paying jobs of the casinos and the higher paying jobs Of the refineries
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Old 10-28-2022, 04:30 PM
 
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Cough cough… Port Arthur….

The 75+ salaries are more abundant in casinos than they are in petrochems.
Do you have any sources that back up this claim? And more importantly, that compare median salaries/wages at casinos vs refineries?

Here's some interesting information about refinery wages: average annual wage of $73,830 (as of 2019)

https://work.chron.com/much-money-oi...ake-10624.html

From the same source (Bureau of Labor Statistics): Casino workers are broken out into several categories, also as of 2019:

Cashiers: Avg salary: $28,010
Dealers: Avg salary: $23,980
Surveillance Officers: $29,710
Supervisors and Managers (from a different source, PayScale): $52,807
https://work.chron.com/range-salary-...ers-21930.html

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Old 10-28-2022, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Do you have any sources that back up this claim? And more importantly, that compare median salaries/wages at casinos vs refineries?

Here's some interesting information about refinery wages: average annual wage of $73,830

https://work.chron.com/much-money-oi...ake-10624.html
That’s only direct employment. Large lump of Contractors not included. Particularly the undocumented employees. My argument is not that they lack high paying. It’s that high paying jobs exist in both. But the 70+ range isn’t the majority for neither.
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Old 10-28-2022, 04:47 PM
 
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That’s only direct employment. Large lump of Contractors not included. Particularly the undocumented employees. My argument is not that they lack high paying. It’s that high paying jobs exist in both. But the 70+ range isn’t the majority for neither.
Well, to be clear you argued that more high-paying jobs exist in casinos. That is very questionable and you've offered no evidence of it. I have offered evidence to the contrary and common sense tells us the contrary.

More to the point, the buik of employment growth that comes from casinos is not blackjack dealers or even casino employees, per se, but rather hotel and restaurant and other hospitality employees, further reducing the average salary of the employment that is brought in by casino development.

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Old 10-28-2022, 04:50 PM
 
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I would love for casinos to come to Texas but fear politicians and lobbyist would ruin the process. The tax money would never be spent as promised and politicians would be lining their pockets.
Very good chance that ends up happening.
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Old 10-28-2022, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Well, to be clear you argued that more high-paying jobs exist in casinos. That is very questionable and you've offered no evidence of it. I have offered evidence to the contrary and common sense tells us the contrary.
That’s Definitely not what I argued. Why are you triggered anyway?
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Old 10-28-2022, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Do you have any sources that back up this claim? And more importantly, that compare median salaries/wages at casinos vs refineries?

Here's some interesting information about refinery wages: average annual wage of $73,830 (as of 2019)

https://work.chron.com/much-money-oi...ake-10624.html

From the same source (Bureau of Labor Statistics): Casino workers are broken out into several categories, also as of 2019:

Cashiers: Avg salary: $28,010
Dealers: Avg salary: $23,980
Surveillance Officers: $29,710
Supervisors and Managers (from a different source, PayScale): $52,807
https://work.chron.com/range-salary-...ers-21930.html
Yeah you’ve definitely missed a lot of the thread…

Using your source, notice the huge difference between those numbers and that of a full service location (what was being argued in the first place)

https://www.payscale.com/research/US...rles-LA/Page-2
https://www.payscale.com/research/US...ake-Charles-LA
https://www.payscale.com/research/US...ts_Ltd./Salary

Again. Big difference between a full service and a lower end. Scrolling through the position, I see they included contract work together
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Old 10-28-2022, 04:57 PM
 
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I want Texas to have casinos.
Me too,not everyone will become addicted to gambling,there are also other things to do-ALL YOU CAN EATBUFFET,MUSIC,SHopping
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Old 10-28-2022, 04:59 PM
 
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That’s Definitely not what I argued. Why are you triggered anyway?
So, when you said: "The 75+ salaries are more abundant in casinos than they are in petrochems.", you meant, what?
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