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Old 10-28-2022, 09:37 AM
 
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Petrochemical plant employees make $75K+, often over $100K. Only top managers in hospitality facilities make that. Your average casino and hotel worker is working-class at best.

Explain why Atlantic City remains a low-income wasteland if your assertion is true.
I've never been to Atlantic City, but I bet it's nicer than Galveston
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Old 10-28-2022, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Kaufman County, Texas
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I've never been to Atlantic City, but I bet it's nicer than Galveston
Nope. It's pretty awful. Decades of mafia/mob influence have left it a dangerous, dirty place.
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Old 10-28-2022, 10:03 AM
 
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To do a good comparison, you'd have to compare Galveston to several cities with casinos
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Old 10-28-2022, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Petrochemical plant employees make $75K+, often over $100K. Only top managers in hospitality facilities make that. Your average casino and hotel worker is working-class at best.

Explain why Atlantic City remains a low-income wasteland if your assertion is true.
Cough cough… Port Arthur….

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The less rare casinos are, the less they will bring in outside tourism. Would Lake Charles and Durant be anywhere as successful if TX had a bunch of casinos?
Nope.

You’re doing the same thing over and over again. Youre saying things about casinos that also apply to petro chemical plants. The 75+ salaries are more abundant in casinos than they are in petrochems. Demand going down, “extremely low income towns” dominated by the industry. Every single thing you’ve mentioned checks both boxes.

The one thing that doesn’t check both boxes is tourism. People travel to gamble. They don’t travel to see chemicals.
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Old 10-28-2022, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Nope. It's pretty awful. Decades of mafia/mob influence have left it a dangerous, dirty place.
If Galveston didn’t have decades of mafia influence, the Fertitta’s wouldn’t be a thing.
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Old 10-28-2022, 10:39 AM
 
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Are you telling us that Republicans hate freedom?
Some of them certainly do, like Dan Patrick. If you aren't like him, you don't deserve freedom is his entire way of thinking
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Old 10-28-2022, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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[Gambling legalized]

Woo whoo! Look at all this money the state is making.

[5 years pass]

Why has homelessness gotten so much worse...?
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Old 10-28-2022, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Some of them certainly do, like Dan Patrick. If you aren't like him, you don't deserve freedom is his entire way of thinking
Amazing how Texans would rally behind and vote for a damn yankee who hates freedom.
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Old 10-28-2022, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Amazing how Texans would rally behind and vote for a damn yankee who hates freedom.
That’ll tell ‘em !!
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Old 10-28-2022, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Cough cough… Port Arthur….



Nope.

You’re doing the same thing over and over again. Youre saying things about casinos that also apply to petro chemical plants. The 75+ salaries are more abundant in casinos than they are in petrochems. Demand going down, “extremely low income towns” dominated by the industry. Every single thing you’ve mentioned checks both boxes.

The one thing that doesn’t check both boxes is tourism. People travel to gamble. They don’t travel to see chemicals.
Yes, the petrochem employees in Port Arthur (and Baytown) live outside those cities (in Nederland, Mont Belvieu etc.). So?

Are you saying that your average drink server, food server, food prep worker, housekeeping worker, security guard - which in total make up a sizable share or quite likely the majority of employees at hotels and casinos - mostly make over $75K? Because every wage statistic I see for the hospitality industry shows that it absolutely not true - it is easily the lowest wage industry sector. Even general managers at limited service hotels often make less than $50K. You're claiming that your envisioned casinos would somehow be different?

Tourism does bring in outside revenue, but as you yourself admit, the extent of that "outsideness" goes down the more prevalent casinos are. A casino in Galveston would bring in spending from elsewhere in Texas - if there's not also a bunch of casinos elsewhere in Texas.
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