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Old 11-10-2022, 05:54 PM
 
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I don't think one should move because of a different opinion per say, but if you grow up somewhere and don't like the politics of the state one should consider if this is the state for them. I am quite fine with where I was born for now. If the population keeps exploding I might find a smaller city or town in Texas that is not "progressing" so quickly. If I didn't like Texas I would seriously consider leaving it for a state that I liked. Likewise, people who move to places and then try to make it like the places they left are silly. People should have respect for the places they go, and consider what made the place they left so different.
Why is that? And exactly who is this strawman that try and make places like the one they left.

I'm happy to call hogwash on that talking point. For one, no one has that type of power. Maybe politics is a big deal to you, but for many it's not the singular thing people decide on when moving to an area (I suspect it's COL first and foremost). Despite what people say through the anonymity of the internet, most people I know are too polite to bring up politics in a general conversation (I certainly never bring it up with friends or clients). In addition, with all the transplants nowadays, there are significant amounts of people that didn't grow up in the area they currently reside. That doesn't mean they must suddenly be in favor of things they don't agree with (i.e. banning abortions). It also doesn't mean they can't co-exist with others that don't have the same beliefs as them. Obviously the same goes with the topic of hand, of which I have a convenient workaround.
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Old 11-10-2022, 06:13 PM
 
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It was more of a general statement. I think local governments should be able to legalize whatever drugs they want, personally. There shouldn't be a state law that makes them illegal, the decision should be left to more local communities.

True, my assertion is not that they can't regulate, my assertion is that Texas is behind the times. Then some internet trolls who can't follow logic took that to mean I want weed and that in a transplant.

It is simple common sense. There's no wave of California transplants moving to Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri... and yet all these states have more lenient Cannabis laws than Texas. The states that I mentioned have had static population growth so if anything is the transplants that holding on to antiquated laws.

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Not what my option but if anyone feels strongly about pot or politics or abortion then they are free to move that’s the point but I guess you can’t comprehend the discussion
Those arguments are some of the weakest around. You can't come up with a logical argument so you resort to personal attacks and suggest people move?

I am definitely not the one lacking in compression. I am the one stacking up cogent arguments while you are coming back with personal attacks. If attacking me makes you feel better, go right ahead. I am content in the fact that my rhetorical acumen swims laps around yours.
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Old 11-10-2022, 06:15 PM
 
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It is a common thing for people to move to a small town and start trying to get people to change things to make it like the big city they fled. Same with people moving from say California to Texas. If this phenomenon is new to you then there is no point in arguing really.

Politics isn't a big deal to me, but it seems to be about all this board ever talks about. If you can't beat 'em join 'em. Although it is not a big deal to me, if political changes in Texas happened and made it a significantly worse place to live, I would definitely consider moving. That happened to many people from Austin, it happens in many cities on the west coast, and it could theoretically happen here.

...I highly doubt it though. New Mexico is and has been Democrat run and that state seems to be fine. I don't really think that things will change all that much in Texas any time soon unless we elect some serious far left candidates. If Beto and the people running for AD and Lieutenant Gov. had all won then Texas would probably go further left than New Mexico pretty quickly.
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Old 11-10-2022, 06:16 PM
 
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True, my assertion is not that they can't regulate, my assertion is that Texas is behind the times. Then some internet trolls who can't follow logic took that to mean I want weed and that in a transplant.

It is simple common sense. There's no wave of California transplants moving to Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri... and yet all these states have more lenient Cannabis laws than Texas. The states that I mentioned have had static population growth so if anything is the transplants that holding on to antiquated laws.
Yes, Texas is way behind the times on marijuana.
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Old 11-10-2022, 06:18 PM
 
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It is a common thing for people to move to a small town and start trying to get people to change things to make it like the big city they fled. Same with people moving from say California to Texas. If this phenomenon is new to you then there is no point in arguing really.
Politics isn't a big deal to me, but it seems to be about all this board ever talks about. If you can't beat 'em join 'em. Although it is not a big deal to me, if political changes in Texas happened and made it a significantly worse place to live, I would definitely consider moving. That happened to many people from Austin, it happens in many cities on the west coast, and it could theoretically happen here.

...I highly doubt it though. New Mexico is and has been Democrat run and that state seems to be fine. I don't really think that things will change all that much in Texas any time soon unless we elect some serious far left candidates. If Beto and the people running for AD and Lieutenant Gov. had all won then Texas would probably go further left than New Mexico pretty quickly.
And you're entitled to your opinion, which is all that statement is. I can't help you with the small town stuff since that small of a population isn't going to change much in a state. Maybe get out a little and stop getting so caught up on this internet crowd.
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Old 11-10-2022, 06:29 PM
 
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It is a common thing for people to move to a small town and start trying to get people to change things to make it like the big city they fled. Same with people moving from say California to Texas.
I understand that. But the weed issue isn't a transplant thing. States with low growth rates (Louisiana, Mississippi, etc) have passed more progressive Cannabis laws. California transplants did not drive Alabama to change its laws. It's amazing to me that Texas is behind the Dakotas and Mississippi on this.

I am fully aware and fully annoyed by people moving here and complaining that here isn't like where they came from. Yes it annoys me and I would definitely ask them why did you move here?

But transplants aside, what's Texas's beef with weed? I don't get the casino hate either. Texans spend bank in Oklahoma and Louisiana on both weed and Casinos. If Texas is so business minded like it claims, why is it favoring limiting personal freedoms instead of business.
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Old 11-10-2022, 08:38 PM
 
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But transplants aside, what's Texas's beef with weed? I don't get the casino hate either. Texans spend bank in Oklahoma and Louisiana on both weed and Casinos. If Texas is so business minded like it claims, why is it favoring limiting personal freedoms instead of business.
Consider that the state still has some remaining "dry" areas. That tells you all you need to know.
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Old 11-13-2022, 10:43 AM
 
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On the opposite side of the spectrum, Texas is early in the Shrooms game. It is one of a handful of states researching the medical benefits of Magic Mushrooms.
Colorado became the 2nd state to legalize Shrooms after Oregon did in 2020.

That's the confusing part though, Texas is one of the last holdouts to consider the health benefits of Weed but they are ahead of the pack on shrooms.
I wonder if it is a perceived demographic issue?
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Old 11-13-2022, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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I wonder if Texas had a medical marijuana program affiliated with the Feds since the 1960s with UT or A&M if weed would be further along statewide now, similar to MS and Ole Miss.
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Old 11-13-2022, 02:27 PM
 
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The biggest impediment to statewide decriminalization of marijuana is Dan Patrick, who has the evangelical Protestant stick so far up his backside he can't bend over. Danny doesn't believe in gambling, weed, or allowing anything remotely fun to be legal. With his control of the State Senate, if he says no, then the legislation is going nowhere.
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