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Old 07-28-2008, 08:03 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Most pro death penalty types are also against a woman's right to choose. That is the right to get an abortion. But they've got no qualms about offing a criminal with the belief that they are creating a "safer" society. So should women who get an abortion be put to death for their "crime"? There is no way that murdering someone betters society. Show me where violent crime rates are down because people are put to death. And the reason why people came here from Europe was because of outdated, antiquated ways of doing things. Like state sanctioned murder, taxation without representation, religious oppression etc.

And why is it that only certain crimes warrant the death penalty? Shouldn't all serious criminals be put to death by pro death penalty supporters' standards? Why just certain ones? Fact of the matter is that disproportionately the people who are eventually put to death by US states are poor, black or hispanic. Most people who can afford good lawyers do not get put to death. The system of capital punishment in this country is uneven, unfair and very barbaric for a "civilized" society to do and still call itself civilized.

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Old 07-28-2008, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Clear Lake, Houston TX
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Every rapist should be drug through the streets than hung in front of the city court house and lynched! like in the old days....Sorry, I just have no mercy for sick people such as rapist.

Lynchings just like in the good ole days huh? Wow.

http://www.ngbiwm.com/Exhibits/Lynch...ge-daniels.jpg

bresilhac, with the amount of poverty/illteracy & the attitudes we have, Texas isn't going to pull itself out of the 19th century anytime soon.

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Old 07-28-2008, 08:35 PM
 
Location: West Texas
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Execution and murder are not the same. Any one can go to Dictionary.com and look up the difference.
Kenneth Allen McDuff is a prime example of way capital punishment in Texas should not be tampered with.
He is also why those convicted of capital offenses should NOT be granted life in prison.
 
Old 07-28-2008, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Alvarado, TX
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Lynchings just like in the good ole days huh? Wow.

http://www.ngbiwm.com/Exhibits/Lynch...ge-daniels.jpg

bresilhac, with the amount of poverty/illteracy & the attitudes we have, Texas isn't going to pull itself out of the 19th century anytime soon.
Nice pic, man. But it's disgusting, too, thank you very much.

Lynchings are/were horrible. Usually done at night, by mobs for a suspect crime against a community, not necessarily humanity.

In Texas, as in any other state that still supports the death penalty, it is the court that says whether the death penalty is available for the jurors to decide. Accordingly, it is up to the jury to give a yea or nay to the death penalty. If the jury says nay, but life in prison, hopefully without parole, so be it. If the jury says yea, the quicker the better I say, specifically if the perpetrator admitted to the crime.

For instance, last week in the little town where I live, a punk walked into an all-night service station, supposedly shot the clerk in the back of the head (it cannot be seen in the security video, but the gun in his hand is quite obvious as he moves through the field of view), and attempted to ransack the cash register, but couldn't get in it. The clerk died a couple of days later. Female. 52, 53 years old.

The punk was caught last Friday night. Sixteen years old. Pitiful. Two lives wasted for a botched robbery attempt, and murder committed, too. The county DA is pressing to charge the punk as an adult. If he is adjudged to be an adult, capital murder charges will be filed. Capital murder usually, usually dictates the death penalty.

However, as I understand the law, and I am not a lawyer by any means of the word, if the punk is not brought to trial as an adult, but as a juvenile, I think the max he can get is imprisonment until age 21. Unless he is retried at that time, as an adult, the punk will be set free, possibly to prey on another unsuspecting victim.

I pray to God he is judged to be an adult, and I pray to God he is strapped to a gurney in the near future, and stuck with the appropriate needles and sent away. I'm fairly certain there are a lot more folks who feel the same way, but I could be wrong.

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Old 07-28-2008, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Mesquite, TX
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I pray to God he is judged to be an adult, and I pray to God he is strapped to a gurney in the near future, and stuck with the appropriate needles and sent away. I'm fairly certain there are a lot more folks who feel the same way, but I could be wrong.
Is this the same God that said "thou shalt not kill"???
 
Old 07-28-2008, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Alvarado, TX
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Is this the same God that said "thou shalt not kill"???
Yep, sure is far as I know.
 
Old 07-28-2008, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Mesquite, TX
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So let me see if I get this. God says "thou shalt not kill", yet you are going to pray to God that somebody is killed.

Does anybody else see a small problem with this line of thinking?
 
Old 07-28-2008, 09:43 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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So let me see if I get this. God says "thou shalt not kill", yet you are going to pray to God that somebody is killed.

Does anybody else see a small problem with this line of thinking?
I can see you have never read your bible. It Say's THOU SHALL NOT MURDER.

And is explained rather well here.. enjoy the reading.. I doubt you will though.. seems to have worked well for you thus far.

Also see.. Ten Commandments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

& Also read this.. with great translation of the actual text:

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It is our job to send these sinners unto GOD to pass his final Judgment on them... So says the Bible.

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Old 07-28-2008, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Alvarado, TX
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So let me see if I get this. God says "thou shalt not kill", yet you are going to pray to God that somebody is killed.

Does anybody else see a small problem with this line of thinking?
No, I have no problem with it. Obviously the perpetrator had no problem with it, why should I?
 
Old 07-28-2008, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Lynchings just like in the good ole days huh? Wow.

http://www.ngbiwm.com/Exhibits/Lynch...ge-daniels.jpg

bresilhac, with the amount of poverty/illteracy & the attitudes we have, Texas isn't going to pull itself out of the 19th century anytime soon.
That man was innocent, this man is guilty.

and btw, I was kidding about the whole lynching thing.....no need to go overboard.
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