04-13-2015, 09:35 AM
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The list was about parks that transformed the urban core of the city. Central Chicago was already bustling and moving and shaking well before millennium park was built. There was no "NEED" for MP.
The hance park is not better than Klyde Warren Park....in no form.....and it's location is kinda blah
Now discovery Green is nice but......well....no one pays attention to it
.....it's just kinda in the background on the list of things to do when people visit Houston.....in Dallas KWP is in the perfect location.You can experience it by just driving under it.
And when visitors drive under it draws their attention and they check the park out.
i meant the article didn't give credit to Millennium, Hance, or Discovery in reference to the Klyde Warren segment/praise.
Hance Park was there before Klyde Warren. whats wrong with its location?
no one pays attention to Discovery Green? thats why there is $1.5 billion in development taking place around the park, and more people visit DG a year than visit KW.
and no. you can't experience it just by driving under it. they made no attempt at connectivity between the park and the freeway below. it looks just like any other sunken highway with a structure above it?
it draws no attention from below. when driving up to it, it looks just like any other street/bridge crossing.
04-13-2015, 10:29 PM
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i meant the article didn't give credit to Millennium, Hance, or Discovery in reference to the Klyde Warren segment/praise.
Hance Park was there before Klyde Warren. whats wrong with its location?
no one pays attention to Discovery Green? thats why there is $1.5 billion in development taking place around the park, and more people visit DG a year than visit KW.
it's hidden, and don't seem to have as big of an impact on Houston as KWP does for Dallas...but it's nice though
and no. you can't experience it just by driving under it. they made no attempt at connectivity between the park and the freeway below. it looks just like any other sunken highway with a structure above it?
it draws no attention from below. when driving up to it, it looks just like any other street/bridge crossing.
I beg to differ....you exit Field and make a quick u-turn and you're there.....You probably should contain your envy because even YOU know that driving under that park is not like a regular underpasscan say that the parking garage under DS is just a regular old parking garage...
04-14-2015, 02:32 AM
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my point was, the article didn't give credit where credit was due..?
Discovery Green is as hidden as Klyde Warren (i assume you are referring to views from the highway or something, because at street level i don't know how you can make that claim. then again i don't know how you can make a lot of the claims you make..)..
how does Discovery Green seem to not have as big an impact on Houston as KW? have you not seen what happened to the east side of downtown since DG's inception...?
its spawned billions in development. how much development has KW spawned??
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i beg to differ. if you have to exit Field, make a u-turn and "you're there", then no, you can't experience the park simply by driving under it...
the containing envy comment is so ironic i don't know what to say. i was going to type something along those lines to you when you started making wild baseless claims like "Now discovery Green is nice but......well....no one pays attention to it.....it's just kinda in the background on the list of things to do when people visit Houston.....".. perhaps it is YOU who should contain your envy.
driving down Woodall Rodgers people have NO IDEA there is a park supported by those concrete beams overhead. its just like driving through a concrete cut and capped tunnel... i can say that the highway under KW is just a regular old highway.. see how that works?
04-14-2015, 03:10 AM
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They knew about the park before they got here
04-14-2015, 10:45 AM
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woah. i just figured out the problem here.. you honestly believe people actually care about Dallas' park outside of Dallas...
i hate to break it to you but the world doesn't revolve around Dallas. just as many people probably know about Dallas' deck park as know about Phoenix's deck park.. which is approximately the amount of people who live in each respected city.
people don't come to Dallas "looking for the park on top of the freeway". the majority of people outside of Dallas have NO IDEA IT EXISTS.
they won't visit it unless they are one of the few who know about it or their hotel room is nearby too. its no different than KWP except KWP is much smaller, lacks as many amenities, and is above moving cars, while Discovery Green is above parked cars. don't get me wrong.. visitors "like" KW, but its nothing out of the ordinary.
how is KWP more sought after? because its the only decent park in Dallas? as i said already. more people visit Discovery Green each year than visit KWP. but in Houston we have other options too..
KWP isn't seen as the first deck park..
again. the people of Phoenix knew their deck park existed, just as the people of Dallas know KWP exists. outside of that, not many other people know or care.
NO. for the last time. the majority of people didn't know about the park before they got there.
04-14-2015, 12:23 PM
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woah. i just figured out the problem here.. you honestly believe people actually care about Dallas' park outside of Dallas...
i hate to break it to you but the world doesn't revolve around Dallas. just as many people probably know about Dallas' deck park as know about Phoenix's deck park.. which is approximately the amount of people who live in each respected city.
people don't come to Dallas "looking for the park on top of the freeway". the majority of people outside of Dallas have NO IDEA IT EXISTS.
they won't visit it unless they are one of the few who know about it or their hotel room is nearby too. its no different than KWP except KWP is much smaller, lacks as many amenities, and is above moving cars, while Discovery Green is above parked cars. don't get me wrong.. visitors "like" KW, but its nothing out of the ordinary.
how is KWP more sought after? because its the only decent park in Dallas? as i said already. more people visit Discovery Green each year than visit KWP. but in Houston we have other options too..
KWP isn't seen as the first deck park..
again. the people of Phoenix knew their deck park existed, just as the people of Dallas know KWP exists. outside of that, not many other people know or care.
NO. for the last time. the majority of people didn't know about the park before they got there.
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Klyde Warren Park Wins National Award « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth
Dallas' Klyde Warren Park wins
Klyde Warren Park freezes out new food truck operators
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DALLAS -- Is Klyde Warren Park, with its huge crowds , playing favorites with food trucks?popular deck park and the potential for big profits.handle large crowds is bad business, he says.
..Hmmm......seems like everybody knows it exist to me...
..A little reminder of the regular underpass
http://youtu.be/0HZv3It6uQc
04-14-2015, 01:09 PM
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so the park won a "national award".. from the Urban Land Institute. there are only about 33,000 members worldwide, and i have no idea how many of them voted on that. ULI members have a much greater awareness of developments like Discovery Green and KWP than the average person. i hope you realize Discovery Green won so many awards i can't even quote the list due to length requirements, and the park was in the press plenty when it first opened too (even still today it makes national headlines about the continuing revitalization its spawned of the surrounding areas)..
are you seriously trying to bold the "large crowds" and "popular park" to indicate that everyone knows it exists? that everyone is local people visiting. heck, i bet a lot of Texans don't even know KWP exists. much less the rest of the country.
as for the "regular underpass".. i said cut and cover tunnel, did i not? it looks like you are coming up on an ordinary overpass because the ends of the "deck park" are lined with surface street crossings.
04-14-2015, 01:10 PM
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lets hope so for Dallas' sake.
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People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
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People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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.....it's just kinda in the background on the list of things to do when people visit Houston.....in Dallas KWP is in the perfect location.You can experience it by just driving under it.
it draws no attention from below. when driving up to it, it looks just like any other street/bridge crossing. 
..A little reminder of the regular underpass
