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Old 03-07-2012, 02:23 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Originally Posted by Spade View Post
I would say Tampa/St. Pete is major. It's population is over 4 million, I believe. How about Miami/Ft. Lauderdale? How about Seattle/Tacoma. Isn't their airport, SeaTac? All major and all over 4 million.
I only really consider the Bay Area major. Twin Cities because of all its economy versus olaces like Tampa Bay.

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Originally Posted by ClarenceBodiker View Post
Don't forget Washington, D.C./Baltimore. That's a big one!


Pooooooooor D.C.! Don't even have an NFL team. Landover, Maryland does! (snicker)

I wonder why D.C. let's the suburbs steal their glory!
Washington and Baltimore are not in the same metro.

 
Old 03-07-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Don't forget Washington, D.C./Baltimore. That's a big one!


Pooooooooor D.C.! Don't even have an NFL team. Landover, Maryland does! (snicker)

I wonder why D.C. let's the suburbs steal their glory!
DC is much stronger than its burbs. look at the office space in DC proper and in the burbs. compare than to Dallas and its burbs
 
Old 03-07-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Houston Inner Loop
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Where would Houston be without "Stinkadena"?
It's more like, "where would the United States be without Stinkadena?" Surely, you're aware that it's probably the most imporant city in Texas. Without it the country would simply grind to a halt. Print it!
 
Old 03-07-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by HtownLove View Post
insult?. Have you lost your spectacles?? I said there is nothing wrong with being a tag team? how is that an insult???


It's not an insult. It's an insult when certain posters (not saying you) say Dallas needs Fort Worth as a crutch to be relevant in this state.
 
Old 03-07-2012, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Washington and Baltimore are not in the same metro.
Yes, they very much are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimo...ropolitan_Area

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Originally Posted by HtownLove View Post
DC is much stronger than its burbs. look at the office space in DC proper and in the burbs. compare than to Dallas and its burbs

Which Dallas suburb even has close to the amount of power and pull as Dallas proper? Which suburb has urban development or a downtown? I'll admit that the populations of some of these suburbs are way too large and out of control, but it's pure suburban development from one end to the other. No one single suburb has close to offering what Dallas does in history, culture, money, influence, or jobs. But, yes, they are large and uppity. I'll give you that.

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Old 03-07-2012, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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insult?. Have you lost your spectacles?? I said there is nothing wrong with being a tag team? how is that an insult???
I saw where you said that, and I also saw repeated statements from the Houston crowd here that Dallas wouldn't be what it is today without Fort Worth and that Fort Worth should secede (as if that wouldn't hurt them any, if it was even possible).

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Key word being major. Only the Bay Area fits that. Twin Cities are on the boundary.
Major is subjective, and what does it matter if they're major cities or not? How do minor cities benefit from having siblings but major cities don't?
 
Old 03-07-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Yes, they very much are.




Which Dallas suburb even has close to the amount of power and pull as Dallas proper? Which suburb has urban development or a downtown? I'll admit that the populations of some of these suburbs are way too large and out of control, but it's pure suburban development from one end to the other. No one single suburb has close to offering what Dallas does in history, culture, money, influence, or jobs. But, yes, they are large and uppity. I'll give you that.
Didn't say they have the same pull as Dallas, collectively they are really powerful burbs.

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I saw where you said that, and I also saw repeated statements from the Houston crowd here that Dallas wouldn't be what it is today without Fort Worth and that Fort Worth should secede (as if that wouldn't hurt them any, if it was even possible).
Its true though. Dallas grew as part of a region. The part of the region is hard to get around.

multiple parts of the US developed as a region and would not be the same if it wasn't for the regional pull. Look at ATL. The choices were to center the regional airport in ATL or Birmingham. ATL was chosen, and see how ATL left Birmingham in the dust after that, Look at the Bay, look at Seattle, look at Denver.

dunno why so many take it as an insult.
 
Old 03-07-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Yes, they very much are.




Which Dallas suburb even has close to the amount of power and pull as Dallas proper? Which suburb has urban development or a downtown? I'll admit that the populations of some of these suburbs are way too large and out of control, but it's pure suburban development from one end to the other. No one single suburb has close to offering what Dallas does in history, culture, money, influence, or jobs. But, yes, they are large and uppity. I'll give you that.
No they are not. Washington and Baltimore are two separate metros that just happen to be close to each other. And not Dallas and Fort Worth close, but Chicago and Milwaukee close. There is no reason for anyone in Washington to go to Baltimore ans the othet way around, too.

And I believe Irving and Plano have some pretty big urban development areas.
 
Old 03-07-2012, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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No they are not. Washington and Baltimore are two separate metros that just happen to be close to each other. And not Dallas and Fort Worth close, but Chicago and Milwaukee close. There is no reason for anyone in Washington to go to Baltimore ans the othet way around, too.

You might want to double check your facts. Dallas and Fort Worth are 36 miles apart. D.C. and Baltimore are 39 miles apart. Chicago and Milwaukee are 92 miles apart. The difference between DFW and Baltimore/D.C. is 4 miles.

D.C. and Baltimore are two cities in close proximity with a ton of suburbs in and around them. People live in Washington or its suburbs and work in Baltimore and vice versa. There is rail and transit that connects the two. Here is a link I edited into my last post:

Baltimore

My company is headquartered in a suburb of D.C. and people who work there live all over the metro area, just like people do here in North Texas.


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And I believe Irving and Plano have some pretty big urban development areas.
Plano and Irving have some big office parks. I wouldn't call Legacy or Las Colinas urban.
 
Old 03-07-2012, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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dunno why so many take it as an insult.
Because it's stated as an insult. As was just mentioned, Fort Worth was described as our "crutch". It's basically saying we have an unfair advantage. It's about like if we said Houston has an unfair advantage in its sea port or the oil industry or whatever.
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