Texas Medical (or other) Marijuana (Clint: gated, tax, restaurant)

[firstclassflyer]

Originally Posted by BobTex

I believe the term(s) "legalize/decriminalize" was used also.


I am all for the decriminalization of weed ... errrr ... pot .... errrr .... marijuana, dude! I think that is a righteous idea !!!!



I'm sure if I burned a couple of high grade reefers I wouldn't care how high my taxes are gonna be raised! Or at least I wouldn't realize it !



Party on!

Well, decriminalize and legalize are two different animals...which one is it?

I think that if decriminalized, there would still be some deterrent and you can't tax it if it's only decriminalized.

Legalization is an entirely different story. Then it'll be subject to taxation.

I agree that it's not addictive like the examples above...but I fear that folks will smoke and drive.

[Spock's Beard]

Originally Posted by catman

firstclassflyer: How many of us actually need alcohol? (Many more than pot, since it is more addictive.) I think that one reason pot is so far from being legalized is the booze lobby, which fears that the easily-grown marijuana plant might cut into their sales. It's a lot harder to make your own whiskey. Lots of people went blind or died during Prohibition trying to make their own 'bathtub gin'.

That's because unethical people mixed in other chemicals in order to make the booze stretch. Whiskey isn't that hard to make, but it requires something most people lack: patience. It has to sit in wooden barrels for YEARS before it's ready.

[firstclassflyer]

Originally Posted by catman

firstclassflyer: How many of us actually need alcohol? (Many more than pot, since it is more addictive.) I think that one reason pot is so far from being legalized is the booze lobby, which fears that the easily-grown marijuana plant might cut into their sales. It's a lot harder to make your own whiskey. Lots of people went blind or died during Prohibition trying to make their own 'bathtub gin'.

I think you've missed my point. The other poster was referring to medical marijuana. Being prescribed medical marijuana is not the same as buying it at Wal-Mart. A doctor would have to prescribe. Doctors don't prescribe alcohol.
Sure, there will be abusers and fraud...but I don't think the tax revenue would be a tremendous windfall as some seem to think..
Full legalization, now that's a whole other story.

[Dube665]

Originally Posted by Spock's Beard

I have to agree. Weed is less narcotic than legal prescriptives like vicodin, plus not as addictive.

I am no fan of potheads, but weed became illegal in the early 1900's at approximately the same time alcohol became legal thanks to prohobitionist puritains. We've now had three Presidents in a row smoke weed. It's time to change an out-dated law.........




Yep. If it gets legalized, then it would be grown domestically, and the Mexican cartels would be out tens of millions of dollars. THE reason for the violence along the border is drugs coming to the US. legalizing weed would deal a death blow to cartels and even street gangs here in the US and put that money into the law-abiding as well as the taxes. Not only would it devastate their sales of illegal weed, it would hurt their sales of other drugs too as a legal high would be bought anywhere, making it more attractive than tracking down some criminal with meth or crack.

Plus the taxes. The government can't make tobacco users pay all the country's bills (even though they'd love to) and weed would provide an instant windfall in revenue that it really needs right now.

It only make sense, common sense, to decriminalize/legalize. Stop wasting money on an unwinnable Drug War and spend the money on treatment for people on hard drugs and education so that new people dont try hard drugs.

[Spock's Beard]

Originally Posted by firstclassflyer

Well, decriminalize and legalize are two different animals...which one is it?

I think that if decriminalized, there would still be some deterrent and you can't tax it if it's only decriminalized.

Legalization is an entirely different story. Then it'll be subject to taxation.

I agree that it's not addictive like the examples above...but I fear that folks will smoke and drive.

In Canada and Holland, it's not legalized and just dectriminalized, which is almost the same thing if decriminalization leads to people not being bothered if having it.

But it has to be legalized. Otherwise people will keep on being fired for using it.

[Spock's Beard]

Originally Posted by Dube665

It only make sense, common sense, to decriminalize/legalize. Stop wasting money on an unwinnable Drug War and spend the money on treatment for people on hard drugs and education so that new people dont try hard drugs.

Keep hard drugs illegal. Crack, meth, LSD, and coke can kill or make your body chemically addicted after just one try.

[firstclassflyer]

Originally Posted by Spock's Beard

In Canada and Holland, it's not legalized and just dectriminalized, which is almost the same thing if decriminalization leads to people not being bothered if having it.

But it has to be legalized. Otherwise people will keep on being fired for using it.

True, but there are monetary penalties in places where it's only decriminalized and not legalized. There are non-enforcement policies in these countries.(been to both many times)
In California, one receives a summons if found with small amounts of marijuana.
I don't use....so it's a non issue for me. I wouldn't use if it were legalized either.

[firstclassflyer]

I'm concerned about folks who would choose to smoke and then try to drive...especially folks with little marijuana experience. Sort of like on New Years Eve when you get light drinkers getting all torqued up and driving on that one night...scary.
Why put more folks on the road in this condition? We have enough of this already.

[Spock's Beard]

Originally Posted by firstclassflyer

True, but there are monetary penalties in places where it's only decriminalized and not legalized. There are non-enforcement policies in these countries.(been to both many times)
In California, one receives a summons if found with small amounts of marijuana.
I don't use....so it's a non issue for me. I wouldn't use if it were legalized either.

Neither would I, but I see the benefits of legalizing it in terms of tax revenue. The black market makes billions per year that could be in the hands of the law-abiding and the tax revenue. With most of our debt owned by China and Obama only creating more debt to pay for Bush's debt, we need the revenue.

Originally Posted by firstclassflyer

I'm concerned about folks who would choose to smoke and then try to drive...especially folks with little marijuana experience. Sort of the New Years Eve when you get light drinkers getting all torqued up and driving on that one night...scary.
Why put more folks on the road in this condition? We have enough of this already.

I hope most would have enough common sense to apply the "don't drink and drive" rules to weed, but they're pot heads so I don't really know how much they're into common sense when high.

[Dube665]

Originally Posted by Spock's Beard

Keep hard drugs illegal. Crack, meth, LSD, and coke can kill or make your body chemically addicted after just one try.

Also, on a humorous note, have you ever noticed how all movies about hard drugs, like all the ones you mentioned are about bad things happening but all the pot movies are funny. That has to say something even though they are just movies.