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Old 03-29-2007, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Midessa, Texas Home Yangzhou, Jiangsu temporarily
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I have been reading the pros and cons of casinos in Texas and I have a plan.

We could legalize casinos but only in certain areas. Texas is already culturally divided into North Texas, Hill Country, East Texas, Gulf Coast, West Texas, South Texas and the Panhandle. Why not allow each of these regions to designate one county in which casinos would be legal?

Out of 254 counties, 6 of them would have casinos which could minimize the negative effects but still keep part of the $10 billion that Texans spend gambling in the state.
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Old 03-30-2007, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Johns Island, SC
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I have lived in San Antonio for 17 years (this time) and all that you stated ALREADY exists in San Antonio. Go to any convenience store and you see people buying beer and lottery. San Antonio has one of the worse DUI/DWI incidents in Texas, and that is only the ones that get caught. Many people are killed here by drunken drivers. I don't drink and really don't care for casinos; however, if we had ONLY ONE in each major city it would help bring more income and jobs to Texas. These casinos could cater to tourists. I DO NOT want multiple casinos, just one, so I'm not grossly underestimating the ultimate destruction...
Steelman, I respect you and did not intend to offend you, but do you really think "ONLY ONE" would be enough to satisfy the people who want to go there or the greedy entrepreneurs who will want to enjoy the revenues?

IMO, it is unrealistic to expect that gambling/increased drinking are so easily controlled by keeping it to just ONE casino for each major city.

Sadly I am new to TX and am continually surprised by the emphasis on drinking that is everywhere. I come from one of the least churched counties in the country and was expecting to find SA and TX more conservative. Just yesterday while driving down Jackson-Keller I stopped at a redlight and noticed a drive thru liquor store on the corner. Boasting on the building it read "Adult Drinks To Go" and on the corner there was a larger than life size sign of a half naked woman floating in a margarita glass. I felt like I was driving down the strip in Vegas and wished the light would turn green before my kids started asking me "mom, what's that place?"
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Old 03-30-2007, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Western Bexar County
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Steelman, I respect you and did not intend to offend you, but do you really think "ONLY ONE" would be enough to satisfy the people who want to go there or the greedy entrepreneurs who will want to enjoy the revenues?

IMO, it is unrealistic to expect that gambling/increased drinking are so easily controlled by keeping it to just ONE casino for each major city.

Sadly I am new to TX and am continually surprised by the emphasis on drinking that is everywhere. I come from one of the least churched counties in the country and was expecting to find SA and TX more conservative. Just yesterday while driving down Jackson-Keller I stopped at a redlight and noticed a drive thru liquor store on the corner. Boasting on the building it read "Adult Drinks To Go" and on the corner there was a larger than life size sign of a half naked woman floating in a margarita glass. I felt like I was driving down the strip in Vegas and wished the light would turn green before my kids started asking me "mom, what's that place?"
I've been saying that San Antonio is not that conservative, but others seem to think so. As I stated earlier, I don't really care if there are casinos, but you and I both know that eventually there will be casino gambling in Texas. The best thing to do is CONTROL and LIMIT them from the start. It is just like liquor and cigarettes that are taxed (sin tax). Let's do the same with casinos if they come along. I agree about that corner liquor store...it goes too far.

I think we should end this with we both agree to disagree. Thanks for the debate.
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Old 03-30-2007, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Johns Island, SC
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I've been saying that San Antonio is not that conservative, but others seem to think so. As I stated earlier, I don't really care if there are casinos, but you and I both know that eventually there will be casino gambling in Texas. The best thing to do is CONTROL and LIMIT them from the start. It is just like liquor and cigarettes that are taxed (sin tax). Let's do the same with casinos if they come along. I agree about that corner liquor store...it goes too far.

I think we should end this with we both agree to disagree. Thanks for the debate.
End it we can, however from experience I do not think that any amount of control on casinos will be enough and I do not want them here. Now if you are right and we get them, when the time comes I reserve the right to say I told you so.
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Old 03-30-2007, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Over The Rainbow
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I think it should be legalized, but my thoughts are that the casinos SHOULD be allowed only in one area. Texas has so much open land. They should make a "Casino City" and have that be the ONLY area people can go to gamble. That way, it will bring in tourist from all over, they can keep the problem somewhat controlled because people would have to travel to access the area and not be able to go to the local Walmart to spend their paycheck. If they create a Casino City, all the people attracted to that kind of life will be in one place and saves the state from having the people overflow into the cities. If there is going to be crime from it, it will be in that area. I say confine it and let all of that wonderful revenue come to the state. The money will relieve some of the tax burden.
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Old 03-31-2007, 10:19 AM
 
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...however on just about any site you dearch for most dangerous states, Nevada and Louisiana are ranked #1 and #2. According to some sites Louisiana is #3. And Nevada is ranked #1 for divorce rates! Is this just coincidence? No!
There are plenty of casinos in Oklahoma, Iowa, Mississippi and many other states, plus don't forget about Atlantic City, NJ, which would be the next closest thing to Las Vegas. Yet, those states don't rank in the top two of the stats you've quoted, how do you explain that?

A quick internet search found that North Dakota is ranked as the "least dangerous" state, yet there are casinos there, too.

I'm not disputing that casinos come with certain problems, but you're overstating the effect, and using poor logic to make connections between two items.
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Old 03-31-2007, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Anywhere but here!
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There are plenty of casinos in Oklahoma, Iowa, Mississippi and many other states, plus don't forget about Atlantic City, NJ, which would be the next closest thing to Las Vegas. Yet, those states don't rank in the top two of the stats you've quoted, how do you explain that?

A quick internet search found that North Dakota is ranked as the "least dangerous" state, yet there are casinos there, too.

I'm not disputing that casinos come with certain problems, but you're overstating the effect, and using poor logic to make connections between two items.
Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion here! That's the idea. However, if you think that "poor logic" plays into this, you're really mistaking and underestimating the whole point of the thread. Gee, I'm "overstating the effect" and using "poor logic" hmmmm Whatever!
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Old 03-31-2007, 12:22 PM
 
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Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion here! That's the idea. However, if you think that "poor logic" plays into this, you're really mistaking and underestimating the whole point of the thread. Gee, I'm "overstating the effect" and using "poor logic" hmmmm Whatever!
You're suggesting that legalized gambling causes a state to be dangerous. As evidence, you pointed out that Nevada and Louisana have legalized gambling and are the two most dangerous states. If this correlation exists, how is it possible that North Dakota, which allows gambling, can be the safest state on the list?

Using one single facet (such as gambling) to explain a very complex "statistic" (such as most dangerous states) is poor logic. This is illustrated by my example regarding North Dakota.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Using poor logic in an attempt to "prove" a point is misleading and irresponsible. I'm merely pointing that out.
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Old 03-31-2007, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Anywhere but here!
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You're suggesting that legalized gambling causes a state to be dangerous. As evidence, you pointed out that Nevada and Louisana have legalized gambling and are the two most dangerous states. If this correlation exists, how is it possible that North Dakota, which allows gambling, can be the safest state on the list?

Using one single facet (such as gambling) to explain a very complex "statistic" (such as most dangerous states) is poor logic. This is illustrated by my example regarding North Dakota.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Using poor logic in an attempt to "prove" a point is misleading and irresponsible. I'm merely pointing that out.
Well, this could possibly have something to do with the fact that Nevad has 2.4 million people and the whole state of North Dakota has just over 600,000 people...I wonder if that could have anything to do with North Dakota being the "safest state".
I am simply pointing out what I know the lifestyle to be living around casinos. Maybe you think that it is because we are in the western states that makes Nevada the way it is, yeah ok I guess that makes sense. We're just a bunch of stupid "irresponsible" people using "poor logic" thus we have more crime etc than other parts of the states with gambling. I guess
I apologize that the info I put down is not up to your standards, however, I posted the information that I obtained. I did not say it was 100% accurate, nor did I say that it is a 100% guarantee that this will all happen in Texas. I merely pointed out what I KNOW to be true from LIVING in a gambling area. Unless you have lived it first hand, I do not think you can accurately dispute it.
I understand if you do not agree with my points/opinions, that's fine, I really don't care! But as far as your attacks of "poor logic" and being "irresponsible" why don't you keep them to yourself. This is about legalizing gambling in Texas, not attacking ME! If you have something meaningful to say that actually supports your views on this topic, GREAT! Have at it! But quit attacking me because you do not like what I have to say!
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Old 05-27-2007, 01:32 AM
 
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I know this is an old post, but you people are crazy!! Put it with the indians on reservations. Drive north to Oklahoma and see what is going on here!! I was born in Texas and lived there and oklahoma. Right now I live in norman, Ok. I hate this state and what it has become. We have casinos popping up everywhere. They are on federal property, and they are regulated by the different tribes. What this means is that there is no regulation. Their payout rates are not regulated by any state or federal agencies. They are the second leading industry in the state next to oil and gas. They are making billions. All casinos are tarketing in state residents, exept for maybe the one in Thackerville, tarketing Texans. They give nothing back to the state. They are killing us, bleeding the state dry. BE VERY CAREFUL!!
I like to gamble and am basically saying if you make it legal, let the state run it and put up casinos with big hotels that bring in tourism, not crap places like oklahoma. Don't let the Tribes have anything to do with this, or they will bleed Texas dry like Oklahoma!!!
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