Better skyline Houston or Dallas? (Fort Worth, Richardson: loans, employment, airports)

[binkyman]

Originally Posted by Truth713

Except that those areas you keep mention are not suffering fro any growth probelms and continue to see develpment and growth don't they ?

You know, the Bohemian concept of "no zoning" isn't a philosophy. In the world of the smart planner, "no zoning" is always going to create a shorter list of work to be done. Now, Bohemianism does have a virtue and a place, but only after matters have been put into perspective. Southern Irving was famous for having no zoning and freeways built up with retail that looked a lot like the ones in Houston. Yet, in northern Irving, Las Colinas is one of the best planned developments in the world.

[Truth713]

Originally Posted by binkyman

You know, the Bohemian concept of "no zoning" isn't a philosophy. In the world of the smart planner, "no zoning" is always going to create a shorter list of work to be done. Now, Bohemianism does have a virtue and a place, but only after matters have been put into perspective. Southern Irving was famous for having no zoning and freeways built up with retail that looked a lot like the ones in Houston. Yet, in northern Irving, Las Colinas is one of the best planned developments in the world.

You keep generating this concept but the 175 years of Houston growth says you are wrong does,nt it.. In fact as Houston grows the other areas become even more intertangled with the core greater connection to these areas are created and they form more union with each other

[binkyman]

Originally Posted by Truth713

You keep generating this concept but the 175 years of Houston growth says you are wrong does,nt it.. In fact as Houston grows the other areas become even more intertangled with the core greater connection to these areas are created and they form more union with each other

Indeed, Houston and Dallas are apples to oranges. From a distance, even the earth and the moon appear as one in the same. In other words, the 240 miles dividing Dallas from Houston is an incredibly shore distance. i don't think they compare enough though to argue about them. While one builds massive skyscrapers to put energy companies into, the other builds incredible amounts of upscale retail to anchor office developments. One has more millionaires. The other has more billionaires.

I can see why people would like Houston because of Galveston and the Gulf of Mexico. But the Houston area floods every seven years and there is so much crap in the ocean right now that it creates flesh eating bacterial diseases.

You know, we can't all live in a perfect telletubby land like Canada.

[stoneclaw]

Originally Posted by Truth713

You keep generating this concept but the 175 years of Houston growth says you are wrong does,nt it.. In fact as Houston grows the other areas become even more intertangled with the core greater connection to these areas are created and they form more union with each other

You're just going to keep him fueled up by trying to reason with him.

I think he actually believes the crap he says.

[binkyman]

Originally Posted by stoneclaw

You're just going to keep him fueled up by trying to reason with him.

I think he actually believes the crap he says.

What I find fascinating are those things that hinder people from sharing in on an intelligent conversation. I've been clearly producing essay like responses discussing the issue while all I've been getting back in return from you are blurtings. So, I ask myself why. Why oh why am I only getting back blurts of information to all these extensive essay like responses I have given in return?

I've actually been trying to make your case for you, but you don't appreciate it. I've bent over trying to be nice for cripes sake. I've even tried to give hints as to what your best answer should be trying to help you as the obvious underdogs, and do I get any recognition or acknowledgement for the charity? No.

I have come to hate all buildings.

[xsatyr]

Originally Posted by binkyman

What I find fascinating are those things that hinder people from sharing in on an intelligent conversation. I've been clearly producing essay like responses discussing the issue while all I've been getting back in return from you are blurtings. So, I ask myself why. Why oh why am I only getting back blurts of information to all these extensive essay like responses I have given in return?

I've actually been trying to make your case for you, but you don't appreciate it. I've bent over trying to be nice for cripes sake. I've even tried to give hints as to what your best answer should be trying to help you as the obvious underdogs, and do I get any recognition or acknowledgement for the charity? No.

I have come to hate all buildings.

The growth in Midtown completely negates your "essay" like responses.

[binkyman]

Originally Posted by xsatyr

The growth in Midtown completely negates your "essay" like responses.

See, now that response was worth a bent nickel as it only took me about forty seconds to read the whole sentence. I guess in the end this skyline argument is all going to hinge on the integrity of Midtown Houston. Is it really there in the shadows caste by those huge skyscrapers in downtown Houston? I've never seen it myself. Oh, there are lots of people, drunkards in fact, who frequent the fancy bars, stumbling out the front doors to the edge of the streets to throw up into the gutters. But, you know, Dallasites were busy doing that way back in the early nineties.

You fellows sure are getting desperate as you've gone from a lot of conservative oil and gas executives working in all those tall fancy skyscrapers in downtown Houston to a lot of liberal drunkards mingling in former barns, school book depositories, and payday loan offices converted over into night clubs.

[TexasTallest]

Originally Posted by binkyman

Indeed, Houston and Dallas are apples to oranges.

im glad you finally realized Dallas is the orange, while Houston is an apple.

[binkyman]

Originally Posted by TexasTallest

im glad you finally realized Dallas is the orange, while Houston is an apple.

Maybe I've got it backwards. i don't know. Most people will give it up for the big, tall skyscraper. That is probably the final factor that tilts people to choose Houston over Dallas - Fort Worth. They look at those well endowed skyscrapers erected in downtown Houston, then they look at the hundreds of thousands of the eighteen story buildings expanding forever beyond the horizon in Uptown Dallas, and then they consider the tens of hundreds of future skyscrapers proposed to be built in the next few years in downtown Houston.

So, being dumb, they choose Houston. Our national elections go the same way.

[brightman79]

[quote=binkyman;30961577]Maybe I've got it backwards. i don't know. Most people will give it up for the big, tall skyscraper. That is probably the final factor that tilts people to choose Houston over Dallas - Fort Worth. They look at those well endowed skyscrapers erected in downtown Houston, then they look at the hundreds of thousands of the eighteen story buildings expanding forever beyond the horizon in Uptown Dallas, and then they consider the tens of hundreds of future skyscrapers proposed to be built in the next few years in downtown Houston.

So, being dumb, they choose Houston. Our national elections go the same way.[/quote


I guess it is dumb that the rest of the world can't see proposed buildings. Maybe because they don't exist, we can't see them yet. How dumb of us.