Which Texas City has the most vibrant downtown?

[Lakewooder]

Please, I go to Adair's all the time! Deep Ellum is fun!

[stoneclaw]

Last time i went to Deep ellum area was around late 2005. It was okay but nothing to go home screaming about. It seemed to me that lower Greenville is the center of the nightlife activity in Dallas. It reminded me a little of downtown Mainstreet in Houston, just not in downtown.

[artsyguy]

Greenville is big in Dallas.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by artsyguy

Greenville is big in Dallas.

Nothing new there, it replaced Deep Ellum 8 years ago. You seem to be a little behind. Even before Greenville became the spot it was popular with the SMU frat boy crowd.

[Spade]

When I talk to someone in Dallas, they seem to consider the core of Dallas as everything inside loop 12. I think that is very comparable to Houston's inner loop and a pretty dense area.

Dallas and Houston systems are different like dv1033 said. But what Dallas and DART did was for a reason. They put their stations where ever they are at on purpose. They were built to bring dense TOD's to the area and that happened, is happening, or will happen in the near future. Completely different than Houston. Houston is building their system in already dense areas and corridors. Dallas is building their system in open land hoping to have development built around them. Both will work out for each other cities in the long run. I do think Houston is building the more urban system. However, I do love what Dallas is doing as well.

[artsyguy]

Deep Ellum has their arts and musical festival every year. The bars, coffee clubs, dance halls, and concert halls attract really far left people. Lizard lounge is still open from what I've seen on youtube.

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

Nothing new there, it replaced Deep Ellum 8 years ago. You seem to be a little behind. Even before Greenville became the spot it was popular with the SMU frat boy crowd.

[stoneclaw]

Originally Posted by Spade

When I talk to someone in Dallas, they seem to consider the core of Dallas as everything inside loop 12. I think that is very comparable to Houston's inner loop and a pretty dense area.
Dallas and Houston systems are different like dv1033 said. But what Dallas and DART did was for a reason. They put their stations where ever they are at on purpose. They were built to bring dense TOD's to the area and that happened, is happening, or will happen in the near future. Completely different than Houston. Houston is building their system in already dense areas and corridors. Dallas is building their system in open land hoping to have development built around them. Both will work out for each other cities in the long run. I do think Houston is building the more urban system. However, I do love what Dallas is doing as well.

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[jslj]

This a no-brainer. As of 2018, Austin's downtown completely blows away the others. I am shocked every time I see it, new towers, people all over the streets, sidewalk cafe's, many boaters on Lady Bird Lake and runners on the trails. It feels very large for a city its size. If you haven't been there in awhile, you will be impressed. Sadly, you can't live in one of the many condos there, unless you are rich. Downtown Fort Worth is charming. San Antonio, too, of course, with the history and riverwalk. Unless they have changed since I've been there, downtown Dallas and Houston are dead as doornails. That is not true if you are counting Oak Lawn, Uptown, Knox-Henderson, etc., but those are different neighborhoods, not downtown. Likewise, the museum district in Ft. Worth is very impressive, but is not downtown.