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Old 02-10-2014, 09:14 PM
 
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As you all know, you guys are all really Michiganders! At least we in Michigan think so. Plus we have not forgotten that Toledo belongs to Michigan and was stolen away from us. Any thoughts?

Please sign the petition and come back to your rightful state!

Petition Asks Obama to Give Toledo Back to Michigan
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Old 02-10-2014, 10:53 PM
 
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Toledo. A sad attempt of a city, the moving out rate is 2/1 to people moving in, it is crippled I myself just moved io Albuquerque New Mexico and realize that it is soooooooo much better so I say who cares it's a ghost town anyway
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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Albuquerque? Really? Soooooo much better?


I guess Michigan can have Toledo back as soon as they give the U.P. back to Wisconsin.
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Old 02-11-2014, 04:01 PM
 
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Albuquerque? Really? Soooooo much better?


I guess Michigan can have Toledo back as soon as they give the U.P. back to Wisconsin.
The Wisconsin Territory was at one time part of the Michigan Territory.Plus, in 1833, Congress had annexed huge tracts of land west of the Mississippi to the then Michigan Territory. When the Wisconsin Territory was split off from the Michigan Territory, it inherited this western land. So as far as I am concerned, the UP belongs to Michigan and arguably so does Wisconsin.
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Old 02-11-2014, 04:12 PM
 
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The Wisconsin Territory was at one time part of the Michigan Territory.Plus, in 1833, Congress had annexed huge tracts of land west of the Mississippi to the then Michigan Territory. When the Wisconsin Territory was split off from the Michigan Territory, it inherited this western land. So as far as I am concerned, the UP belongs to Michigan and arguably so does Wisconsin.
Yeah, well so does Detroit.
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Old 02-11-2014, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Des Moines Metro
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Toledo is an area onto itself. It's a mix of Michigan and Ohio cultures, plus some very special "lakeside" networks. I'm glad the area is coming back, albeit slowly.
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:09 PM
 
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Toledo. A sad attempt of a city, the moving out rate is 2/1 to people moving in, it is crippled I myself just moved io Albuquerque New Mexico and realize that it is soooooooo much better so I say who cares it's a ghost town anyway
Albuquerque? Really? EEK!

No offense, but I have spent a couple of nights in that city during cross country road trips, and you couldn't give me the whole city. I'm not a huge fan of Toledo, but really...Albuquerque is one of the least desirable cities that I have ever seen. Scary. That's what it was...scary!
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Cape Coma Florida
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Why would Michigan want Toledo when they already have Detroit?
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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Does the OP want Michigan to take over the world?

I'm not on the Ohio forum that much, but last time I noticed that he wanted to form a new region of the country with Michigan at it's center - or something like that.

Another time he was worried that he South West was stealing Michigan's water.
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Old 02-12-2014, 05:16 PM
 
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Does the OP want Michigan to take over the world?

I'm not on the Ohio forum that much, but last time I noticed that he wanted to form a new region of the country with Michigan at it's center - or something like that.

Another time he was worried that he South West was stealing Michigan's water.
The Southwest, or at least some governors of Southwestern states, did indeed at one time discuss trying to get a pipeline built to divert our Great Lakes water to their desert state. Bill Richardson of New Mexico was one of the biggest promoters of that ridiculous idea.

"Hey, I know! Let's build some big cities in the middle of a DESERT and then try to force the government to spend a fortune stealing water for us from states that had the common sense to build their cities by large, natural bodies of water!"

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