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how can u say toledo aint that bad? apparently u dont live were i live i hate when people say "its not that bad" for its size it is very bad its not the size of detroit but if it were u would see just as much crime. most people that say that stick to suburbs and highways i live in the south end/south central between south ave. The A.W. trail, and broadway and we deff. dont say that kind of stuff and its not a place u want to move to or be on the regular ive seen murders, hookers, drive by's, arsons, drug deals/gangfights regularly, and many other crimes and ur gona tell me its not soo bad then spend a weekend in my area see if it changes ur mind
I think it depends on what you're looking for in a place. Toledo's not a bad city, but I'm not sorry I moved away, either. It does have a great art museum, nice parks, galleries, and a fabulous downtown library. Those are the sorts of things that I care about--I don't know about you. When I visit, it's nice to not read about murders in the paper every other day, and to feel like there's lots of open space around me. People tend to be down on the places where they're from.
Ya ok maybe nice parks in oregon but the ones around here there pulling bodies from so hop of that real quick
Just like many other areas, the majority of people who say that Toledo is such a bad place either never left the Toledo area, or havent been there for that much time and are just bashing it.
Ive been to Toledo many times, much more than "a weekend". Ive also been to many areas throughout the country and know all about crime statistics. After all of that you realize that Toledo is just worse than average. Its nowhere near the level of Detroit. The fact that Toledo only had 12 murders with a population of 300k proves what I just said. East Cleveland is 1/12th the size of Toledo and had 12 murders that same year. Lorain is 1/5th the size and had 9. Of course most the other categories were still above average, but nobody who has a clue what theyre talking about would ever say Toledos crime rate is similar to Detroits. Detroit is barely 3 times Toledos population but had 32 times as many murders. There is no comparison.
Just like any shrinking and hurting rust belt city, Toledo has its problems and bad neighborhoods, and its share of crime. Its not half as bad as some of you uninformed people make it out to be though.
I grew up in Monroe, MI and relocated to Toledo for college about a year and a half ago, and I can't say that it's the best decision I've ever made. It certainly beat staying in Monroe, but this topic is about Toledo, not Monroe...
Anyway, having grown up so close to Toledo and living here now, I've definitely seen a huge decline. Whomever made the comment that there are a lot of nice malls in Toledo is mistaken. The only open mall is Westfield Franklin Park, and it's not bad. There are some nicer shopping complexes in the suburbs, but not within the city limits.
There is an art museum and a zoo, but there are only so many times that you can to go these places before you've seen it all. Both places are great to go a few times. As far as performing arts go, there is the Toledo Symphony Orchestra and the Toledo Jazz Orchestra. Neither organization is very well supported, and most people don't even seem to know about them (especially the latter). There is the University of Toledo, whose music ensembles range from sort of decent (the Jazz Ensemble) to straight-up embarrassing (won't mention names here). This is not surprising - the arts at UT are not very well supported, and very few people really seek to study music there (I can attest to all of this, as a music major).
The night life isn't awful if you really look for it. If you're a college student looking to hang out at a bar with other college students, or watch the game, there are several "regular" spots. If you're looking for a more mature place (which I usually am, seeing as I prefer to hang out with professionals rather than students), there isn't really anywhere classy. You can find a few fun holes-in-the-wall if you look for them.
It is hard to find a good restaurant in Toledo. Frickers is all right because they have 35 cent wing night on Tuesdays. Tony Packo's is pretty good, too if you're looking for something cheap and cafe-style. Other than that, I have not found good food within the city limits.
Toledo Public Schools - don't get me started. My very best friend is a teacher at a high school and several elementary schools that belong to said high school. His high school's computer lab has the same old computers that someone might have thought worked great in 1993. The teachers there are lazy and incompetent. My friend had to fail many of his high school students because they could not master the English language enough to write their own paper (most of them were copy+paste directly from Wikipedia, hyperlinks included). However, another high school in the same district has a high enrollment rate, cutting edge technology, a brand new building, and various extracurriculars. How can a rich-suburb-esque school and a poor inner-city school coexist in the same school district? I've heard a lot of bad things about the inner-workings of TPS. Depending on what school you go to, yeah, Toledo is THAT BAD.
The University of Toledo is embarrassing. I don't know why people come from all over the place to study there. The one thing I can say about it is that if you go Greek, you will get through it a lot easier. I have heard of certain chapters hazing and stuff, but many of them do no such thing. I was an Alpha Xi Delta for a semester, and absolutely loved it.
There is crime in Toledo as there is everywhere, but I haven't ever had a problem. I had to live out of my car for a month, so even when I had everything I owned packed in my car, it was not broken into. Ironically, when I lived in Monroe still with my parents, my father's car was broken into almost weekly, and mine nearly was, too.
So, is Toledo THAT bad? I guess it depends on who you are. If you spend a year or less in Toledo, you probably won't get too bored. I've spent almost two years here, and I'm going to be leaving in August. When I first got here, it was all right, but now I know that if I stay another semester, I might lose my mind. And as far as crime goes, if you're not living across the river or by the Anthony Wayne Trail just south of downtown, you're probably going to be all right - and you're certainly not going to get shot.
i have also been to major cities throughout the country nd to say toledo is not bad is false information i have lived here all my life and statistics dont mean anythin. sure there are good areas but the area i currently live on hawley and colburn off of south ave. and the anthony wayne trail, which is the heart of the old south end/south central, maybe one of the worst areas ive seen in any major city including detroit, atlanta, miami, brooklyn, pittsburgh, DC, baltimore, ive been to all and they all are known for crime and i have to say my neighborhood is right inline with some of the worst neighborhoods there. if u want to dispute me then i will invite u over and we can take a walk around the block (in broad daylight mind u) and we will count the amount of drug deals and prostitutes and the occasonal trap(crack house) soo if u have anythin else to say about statistics that mean absolutly nothing come here o and do u think the cops in that jurisdiction would arrest these people? no b.c. they are in on it too. dont believe me i will prove it i kno a few dirty cops myself
Toledo has twice as many rapes (per 100,000), an equal number of assaults (per 100,000), three times as many burglaries (per 100,000), twice as many thefts (per 100,000), and 24 times as many arsons (per 100,000) when compared to DC. I work in DC and I feel safer there at night than I do in Downtown Toledo during the day. Maybe that's because there are actually other people out doing things in DC. Toledo is a filthy city and it's filthier every time I go back to see it.
i have also been to major cities throughout the country nd to say toledo is not bad is false information i have lived here all my life and statistics dont mean anythin. sure there are good areas but the area i currently live on hawley and colburn off of south ave. and the anthony wayne trail, which is the heart of the old south end/south central, maybe one of the worst areas ive seen in any major city including detroit, atlanta, miami, brooklyn, pittsburgh, DC, baltimore, ive been to all and they all are known for crime and i have to say my neighborhood is right inline with some of the worst neighborhoods there. if u want to dispute me then i will invite u over and we can take a walk around the block (in broad daylight mind u) and we will count the amount of drug deals and prostitutes and the occasonal trap(crack house) soo if u have anythin else to say about statistics that mean absolutly nothing come here o and do u think the cops in that jurisdiction would arrest these people? no b.c. they are in on it too. dont believe me i will prove it i kno a few dirty cops myself
Obviously you havent been to the bad areas in those cities you mentioned. I have. Areas of North Philly, East Detroit, West Baltimore, and DC, make the worst areas of Toledo look nice.
Toledo is not that nice and does have bad areas, also nice areas, but saying its among the worst in the country is a ridiculous exaggeration.
I found it ironic that the OP lives in Cincy and is going to attend UT. I lived in Toledo and went to UC. It was a defining time in my life as it opened my eyes to the world away from Toledo. NW Ohio isn't a bad place but I decided to leave because I found it boring.
I loved Oak Openings park, Tony Packos, the art museum, many mexican restaurants, downtown Perrysburg, fresh perch in Sandusky, hockey.
When I return periodically, it all seems so much...smaller.
The weather...well...I don't miss that at all. Snow seemed great until Jan. 1 and then it could go away as far as I was concerned. But the cold and snow was just starting and February just sucked weather-wise.
I've no regrets having moved to Fl. but don't recall Toledo being a bad place. There are some bad spots but I chose to stay away from them.
Just like many other areas, the majority of people who say that Toledo is such a bad place either never left the Toledo area, or havent been there for that much time and are just bashing it.
Ive been to Toledo many times, much more than "a weekend". Ive also been to many areas throughout the country and know all about crime statistics. After all of that you realize that Toledo is just worse than average. Its nowhere near the level of Detroit. The fact that Toledo only had 12 murders with a population of 300k proves what I just said. East Cleveland is 1/12th the size of Toledo and had 12 murders that same year. Lorain is 1/5th the size and had 9. Of course most the other categories were still above average, but nobody who has a clue what theyre talking about would ever say Toledos crime rate is similar to Detroits. Detroit is barely 3 times Toledos population but had 32 times as many murders. There is no comparison.
Just like any shrinking and hurting rust belt city, Toledo has its problems and bad neighborhoods, and its share of crime. Its not half as bad as some of you uninformed people make it out to be though.
True, but I was born and raised in Toledo and have lived in other places as well and you can't go by statistics sometimes especially when we had an extremely safe year that one year. One reason for that is due to a police officer getting murdered earlier that year and Toledo police putting alot more police officers on the streets in 2007 especially after 2006 when we had 35...... Now they're talking about not hiring new recruits and possible layoffs with one of the lowest numbers since the 60s.... Not too good.... Thats going to open up the drug market more, which anyone living in those dangerous areas can tell u, alot of the homicides are drug-related.... I lived in the Englewood section of Chicago and resided in South Central LA.... I know dangerous.....
Toledo is not those places by far, but dont go by statistics... I lived in Toledo and seen similar problems, Ive seen an AK-47 Assault rifle pulled on two people that same year at Big Shots bar and grill off Albion.... I hear gunshots quite frequently in Toledo as I did in other places.... Not trying to make Toledo sound hard or anything, just trying to make a point.... I've lived in Toledo most of my life and I remember Toledo in the 90s when it did have a high murder rate, I remember back in the 90s when I saw three people get gunned-down in a drive-by.... This is not from no news sources, this is from my eyes.... And what is making alot of Toledoens concerned right now is the bad economy, which is causing people to wonder if Toledo is going back to the 90s, when it was one of the top 20 highest murder rated cities in America....
So is Toledo a bad city???? I would say yes... Is it as bad as other places???? No.... Especially being that we're only 45 minutes from the most dangerous city in America, Detroit.... But its one thing to look at statistics and see numbers and go by that, its another thing to be living thru it whether your in Toledo, Detroit, Chicago, Gary or New Orleans....
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