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View Poll Results: How would you rate the weather of Toronto from your personal experience?
I think the weather's pretty good. Not perfect, but it's good enough. 4 44.44%
I find the weather barely tolerable, but it is tolerable. 4 44.44%
I do not like the weather. It is a pretty big problem for me. 1 11.11%
I extremely dislike the weather so much that I have moved away or am seriously thinking of it. 0 0%
Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-09-2013, 11:54 AM
 
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In the winter I normally heat it to about 18, but I understand your point. To each their own. I like the change in seasons, and I enjoy winter sports, so maybe I'm biased to a certain extent.
Proves my point:
San Diego weather

Dec 9.4-18.5
Jan 9.1-18.7
Feb 10.9-18.7

See? In Toronto winter, you set your room temperature to San Diego natural temperature.
You might like change of seasons, but in the end, what's more comfortable to you is exactly like what is comfortable to everyone else.
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Old 11-09-2013, 12:19 PM
 
Location: San Diego via Orange County via Toronto via Rome Italy
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Toronto very rarely have a white Christmas. Last time it happened was 2008, I think.
If you want a snowy winter, you gotta go 50 miles north of Toronto. North of the 401, it gets a lot snowy. Downtown, but so much. Days the ground is covered with snow is limited.

I have a feeling that this winter will be mild and less snowy.
Yep - I realize Toronto Christmases aren't as snowy as when I was a kid growing up there - you could almost always count on at least a light dusting on the ground - though maybe that's just nostalgia talking. We are planning a day-trip or two up north, and several relatives live up in Woodbridge so we may get lucky.

Still, I'll be wishing for a white Christmas in town. I mean - its not like we don't know snow in SoCal at all - e.g. this place is only an hour from our house -

A BLUEBIRD'S DAY FOR PLAY ON MOUNT LAGUNA | East County Magazine

but it doesn't snow often up there, and when it does, it's usually all gone in a few days, so easy to miss.
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Old 11-09-2013, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Niagara Falls, ON
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2 or 3 winter sports don't even out all kinds of other sports.

Not just sports. In mild winter, people can go hiking in the park, hold outdoor festivals, eat in restaurant patios, etc and etc. It is the freedom of doing anything outdoor under comfortable natural temperature.

Why can't you admit freezing winters in general suck and one or two "winter sports" don't make it so much better?
Another closed minded, glass half empty rant by botticelli.

As someone who enjoys weather and meteorology, our winters are far more interesting than anything southern California has to offer. Snowstorms, thundersnow, ice days, instability - all of my dream climates have more in common with southern Ontario than anything out west.

The lack of outdoor events rant is bull - Niagara hosts outdoor concerts in the dead of winter:


New Years Eve 2011 by Phil Armishaw on Flickr

There is no reason you can't go on a hike during the winter, try getting out of the house once in a while. Here are some pics I took last February along the Niagara gorge:

Winter 2013 photo thread

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Winter sports are what people deliberately invented to have a little bit of fun in miserable weather to that they are not stuck indoors 24/7. Got it?
I go snowmobiling, beerbogganing, skiing and tubing because I genuinely enjoy it. If our winters were too warm for such events I would seek them out regardless (just like the thousands of Californians that go skiing in their mountains). I also prefer shoveling the driveway over cutting the grass because I get to skip the gym for the day.

PDW literally mentioned one positive thing about our winters and you went on another pointless rant. Our winters could resemble San Diego and you would still find something to complain about. Typical.

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Proves my point:
San Diego weather

Dec 9.4-18.5
Jan 9.1-18.7
Feb 10.9-18.7

See? In Toronto winter, you set your room temperature to San Diego natural temperature.
You just disproved your point, as the temperatures only hover around 18°c for a portion of the day. You find San Diego comfortable despite needing a coat at night.

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You might like change of seasons, but in the end, what's more comfortable to you is exactly like what is comfortable to everyone else.
Exactly. Ironic since it contradicts many of your posts.

"I boggles my mind that people like you insist that days of -15C are actually making Toronto more interesting. They don't"

"I am sure 99% of people on the earth would rather walk into 15C to work on a typical January morning than all bundle up."

"People who claim they prefer Toronto winter to San Diego winter are just kidding themselves."
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Old 11-09-2013, 02:12 PM
 
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our winters are far more interesting than anything southern California has to offer. Snowstorms, thundersnow, ice days, instability - all of my dream climates have more in common with southern Ontario than anything out west.
Snowstorms and thunderstorms are "interesting"? Wow... do you know how much the city has to spend just to deal with the snow? And the disruption of thunderstorms to the power lines?

Yeah, you find them "interesting", maybe you are special.


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The lack of outdoor events rant is bull - Niagara hosts outdoor concerts in the dead of winter:
All these events can be held in other seasons as well, can't they? And warmer seasons make it possible to have more events, don't they?

Why doesn't Toronto have the Caribana and Gay Parade in January? Because it CAN'T.
On the other hand, you can have all the Santa Claus parade all you want in other seasons, when it is 5C or 15C or 25C. Miami and Houston can celebrate Xmas as cheerfully as Toronto and Montreal.

Winter and cold temperature is more of an impediment to more interesting events, but you refuse to admit it, and keep pretending having three months of frigid winters is "fun".

Answer this question then: do you do outdoor activities more in the summer, or in the winter?
No matter how stubborn you words are, you can't deny warm days provide way more flexibility in terms of human activities.

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I also prefer shoveling the driveway over cutting the grass because I get to skip the gym for the day.
yeah, RIGHT. We all know how Canadians just can't wait to shovel their driveways every winter

Some people like winters. But very very few people really like Canadian style winter (frigid and very long 4-6 months).
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Old 11-09-2013, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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I lived in Toronto for 25 years. The climate is OK but it does not snow enough for my tastes.
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Having moved to Toronto from Montreal, I found the winters pretty easy to handle.
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Old 11-10-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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I live in Buffalo. Toronto's weather seems a little colder in fall / spring / winter, and a little hotter in summer. Toronto seems to have less sunshine in summer as well.
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Old 11-10-2013, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Niagara Falls, ON
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Snowstorms and thunderstorms are "interesting"? Wow... do you know how much the city has to spend just to deal with the snow? And the disruption of thunderstorms to the power lines?
Big deal, I pay my taxes. Every city has to deal with its natural disasters. We actually have it easy here.

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Yeah, you find them "interesting", maybe you are special.
Plenty of people find weather interesting, go to any weather forum. Do you find everyone with a hobby 'special'?

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All these events can be held in other seasons as well, can't they? And warmer seasons make it possible to have more events, don't they?

Why doesn't Toronto have the Caribana and Gay Parade in January? Because it CAN'T.
On the other hand, you can have all the Santa Claus parade all you want in other seasons, when it is 5C or 15C or 25C. Miami and Houston can celebrate Xmas as cheerfully as Toronto and Montreal.
Parades probably become less common during the dog days of summer in places like Houston and Miami. To say we "CAN'T" host events here during the wintertime is a completely false statement as shown above, you are just too stubborn to admit it.

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Winter and cold temperature is more of an impediment to more interesting events, but you refuse to admit it, and keep pretending having three months of frigid winters is "fun".
Winter is one of my favourite times of the year as it offers a lot of interesting weather. It's the transitional months like November and March that I dislike, when its often too cool for tshirt weather and too warm for snow. I would go insane in a climate with little storms, variability, or precipitation, though I understand why some people prefer boring climates like San Diego. You are clearly too closed minded to understand this point of view.

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Answer this question then: do you do outdoor activities more in the summer, or in the winter?
I am outside just as much during the winter as summer. I usually go for a jog once a day too.

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yeah, RIGHT. We all know how Canadians just can't wait to shovel their driveways every winter
There are several companies that will shovel your driveway for $150 a season if you are seriously that lazy, I know psychical labour scares people these days.
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Old 11-10-2013, 12:26 PM
 
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I don't think people realize that the Great Lakes cities are the most protected from natural disasters.

No hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, tsunamis, and very rarely have floods.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:52 PM
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Location: Ontario
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I live in Buffalo. Toronto's weather seems a little colder in fall / spring / winter, and a little hotter in summer. Toronto seems to have less sunshine in summer as well.
True.

But one weather tidbit you forgot to mention Erik....a lot less snow than Buffalo,
which is either a plus or minus, depending how much you like snow
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