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Old 01-19-2016, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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I think SF will just do fine. People are moving there like it's the only city on this planet. Another improvement will be SF's future connectivity with rest of Cali, the opening of the nation's first high speed rail hub in downtown SF that will connect it seamlessly to LA. I just wish Toronto/Canada could get its acts together and revamp VIA Rail into something that actually resembles a 21st century rail service.


The high speed train you are referring to is highly controversial with the Majority of Californians opposed to it. There are 6 airports in Southern California with frequent non-stop air service to San Francisco, San Jose, and Oakland.


It is not considered proper etiquette to refer to California as "Cali". That is as bad as referring to San Francisco as "Frisco" which is a city in Texas. Cali is a city in Colombia SA.
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Old 01-19-2016, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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From your comment it's like you think Toronto is located somewhere in the Northwest Territories...

Population within various distances

50 miles
SF: 7m
Toronto: 7m

100 miles
SF: 11m
Toronto: 11m

150 miles
SF: 12m
Toronto: 13m

200 miles
SF: 14m
Toronto: 19m

250 miles
SF: 15m
Toronto: 33m

300 miles
SF: 16m
Toronto: 41m

350 miles
SF: 23m
Toronto: 76m

400 miles
SF: 33m
Toronto: 97m

450 miles
SF: 37m
Toronto: 119m

500 miles
SF: 41m
Toronto: 131m

...

There is a big difference. There is an international border between Toronto and the vast majority of the people you list for Toronto.
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Old 01-19-2016, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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San Francisco is a very compact city of 852,000 people all in an area of only 47 sq. mi. There is no room to expand.
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Old 01-21-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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San Francisco is a very compact city of 852,000 people all in an area of only 47 sq. mi. There is no room to expand.
considering Paris has 2.3 million and Barcelona has 1.7 million on land of exactly the same size I hardly call SF very compact or no room to expand.

SF has about the same density as the old city of Toronto before 1998. Neither is exceptionally compact.
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Old 01-21-2016, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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considering Paris has 2.3 million and Barcelona has 1.7 million on land of exactly the same size I hardly call SF very compact or no room to expand.

SF has about the same density as the old city of Toronto before 1998. Neither is exceptionally compact.

Whatever.
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Old 01-21-2016, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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There is a big difference. There is an international border between Toronto and the vast majority of the people you list for Toronto.
So what, people cross the border all the time.
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Old 01-21-2016, 09:08 PM
 
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Toronto-2.7 million and SF-830,000 No comparison! Toronto is way, way more citylike and dense than SF. High rises all over the place in downtown, near downtown, waterfront and corridors.
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Old 01-21-2016, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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Toronto-2.7 million and SF-830,000 No comparison! Toronto is way, way more citylike and dense than SF. High rises all over the place in downtown, near downtown, waterfront and corridors.
The population doesn't make it any better. The fact is that San Francisco is very unique in a beautiful setting. Toronto is just a big city with nothing very attractive about it. If I want a big city, I will go to New York city which is a great place to visit. We visit Manhattan every summer.

I have spent a lot of time in both cities.
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Old 01-22-2016, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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The population doesn't make it any better. The fact is that San Francisco is very unique in a beautiful setting. Toronto is just a big city with nothing very attractive about it. If I want a big city, I will go to New York city which is a great place to visit. We visit Manhattan every summer.

I have spent a lot of time in both cities.
Whatever!
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Old 01-22-2016, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Harrison
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The population doesn't make it any better. The fact is that San Francisco is very unique in a beautiful setting. Toronto is just a big city with nothing very attractive about it. If I want a big city, I will go to New York city which is a great place to visit. We visit Manhattan every summer.

I have spent a lot of time in both cities.
Doesn't the saying go something like this:

New York - great place to visit, wouldn't want to live there. Toronto - great place to live, wouldn't want to visit.
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