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Old 10-21-2020, 01:06 PM
 
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I'd say Chicago but even then, Canadian cities dont have ghettos, neighborhoods are not race based and you can find people of all colors living side by side, we don't have those huge social differences you have in the US.

Toronto's entire city is vastly livable, generally much more walkable than anything in Chicago past the lakefront.

However in general terms, Chicago would be the closest thing to Toronto.
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Old 10-26-2020, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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I'd say Chicago but even then, Canadian cities dont have ghettos, neighborhoods are not race based and you can find people of all colors living side by side, we don't have those huge social differences you have in the US.
I have heard that you guys even give some of your visible minorities free starlight tours, free of charge.
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Old 12-23-2020, 08:09 AM
 
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I'd say Chicago but even then, Canadian cities dont have ghettos, neighborhoods are not race based and you can find people of all colors living side by side, we don't have those huge social differences you have in the US.

Toronto's entire city is vastly livable, generally much more walkable than anything in Chicago past the lakefront.

However in general terms, Chicago would be the closest thing to Toronto.
Neighborhoods are not so much race oriented because most of Canada's ethnic troubles historically have been dominated by both Franco/Anglo issues and First Nations troubles. The crime rates in Nunavut and similar areas are far worse than even in the worst American ghettoes, but historically job opportunities for First Nation people have been few and far between in Canada so they seldom migrate to the cities. In the de jure sense, Canada has had fewer ethnic/racial troubles, but de facto in terms of First Nation people, that is a very different story. It's just that most of that has not taken place in cities.

Slavery was never profitable that far north, so it was not practiced there. So there is that. Canadian agriculture is primarily grain based, with limited dairy included. There is a far greater agricultural base in USA, mostly due to the much more diverse climatic conditions. You can't grow oranges in Alberta, and you never needed cheap labor to pick cotton. Automation displaced many early agricultural workers in America and they moved to large cities in search of work. Unfortunately, our left wing over decades has instituted policies that resulted in concentrating them in areas we refer to as ghettoes. Public housing units, policies that discourage working to get ahead, free food and healthcare, vouchers for clothing, even transportation tickets. The result is a sort of welfare slavery from which there is no incentive to leave. Idle time leads to trouble, but the left cultivates the relationship in order to maintain a victim group based constituency.

It is difficult to really compare one place to another because it is always far more complex than meets the eye, but no place really deserves to assume a position of pseudo moral superiority. There are problems everywhere, and they vary depending on local circumstances.
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Old 02-18-2021, 10:51 AM
 
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"State of Independence" and "Empire State" are meaningless phrases. New York or Pennsylvania no more has a unique "identity" than does Ontario. They are all part of North American English-speaking culture, and they have their own unique attributes in some areas.
Spoken like an ignorant Canadian.

New York exports far more culture and is far more known to the world than Ontario is.

Pennsylvania has a more distinct culture than Ontario, even.

It's very typical of Canadians to want to treat American culture like a "North American English-speaking culture" when they become insecure about their comparatively tiny, irrelevant national culture.

America is a cultural hegemon. No one recognizes it's culture products as anything but American - from fashion to tv and film to music to innovation.

If there's a "North American" culture, America contributes far more to it's identity than Canada - which is heavily influenced by American culture.
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Old 02-18-2021, 10:55 AM
 
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I'd say Chicago but even then, Canadian cities dont have ghettos, neighborhoods are not race based and you can find people of all colors living side by side, we don't have those huge social differences you have in the US.

Toronto's entire city is vastly livable, generally much more walkable than anything in Chicago past the lakefront.

However in general terms, Chicago would be the closest thing to Toronto.
Chicago is vastly more walkable and interesting, all the way to it's outer suburbs, than Toronto.

Chicago has a walk score of 77, compared to Toronto's walk score of 61:

https://www.walkscore.com/IL/Chicago

https://www.walkscore.com/CA-ON/Toronto

It appears Canadians have their pet lies and delusions to insulate themselves from the reality of Toronto losing against large American cities like New York and Chicago.

Seriously, you're pulling this "more walkable" nonsense from out of your a**. It's the other way around.
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Old 02-19-2021, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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Chicago is vastly more walkable and interesting, all the way to it's outer suburbs, than Toronto.

Chicago has a walk score of 77, compared to Toronto's walk score of 61:

https://www.walkscore.com/IL/Chicago

https://www.walkscore.com/CA-ON/Toronto

It appears Canadians have their pet lies and delusions to insulate themselves from the reality of Toronto losing against large American cities like New York and Chicago.

Seriously, you're pulling this "more walkable" nonsense from out of your a**. It's the other way around.
I have a feeling that you will probably be banned from here with your ridiculous over the top anti Canada posts, if you continue, just sayin’.
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Old 02-21-2021, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Queen Maud Land
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Toronto is like a combination of New York, Chicago, Philadelphia and San Francisco with a touch of Cleveland or Detroit for good measure.
Toronto is *nothing* like New York lol. Toronto has hardly anything in common with Chicago, for that matter. It has become a soulless condo city with a highly inflated cost of living that has priced everything that made it unique too expensive to maintain.

As for San Francisco, with its exploding homeless population, open defecation and rampant IV drug use, you would be better off comparing it to Third World capitals like New Delhi rather than any other cities in North America (with the exception of maybe Seattle).

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Canadian cities dont have ghettos
You need to leave your town of 10,000 sometime lol.
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Old 02-22-2021, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Chicago is vastly more walkable and interesting, all the way to it's outer suburbs, than Toronto.

Seriously, you're pulling this "more walkable" nonsense from out of your a**. It's the other way around.
Is it safer though?
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Old 03-14-2021, 12:24 AM
 
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Both New York and Toronto are similar in the sense that they are the most important financial districts. They both have their monuments, such as Empire State, Lincoln Center, and CN tower and Rogers Center.

Both Chicago and Toronto have the Great Lakes—Chicago on Lake Michigan and Toronto on Lake Ontario. The cities also share a similar topography and population, with Toronto leading with approximately 100,000 more residents.

SF can also be comparable with Toronto.
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Old 05-01-2021, 07:07 AM
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Location: New Haven
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The only city truly comparable (population wise) to Toronto in the US would be Chicago, and they are extremely different in everything from demographics, to culture, crime, infrastructure etc. In terms of diversity, we're more similar to NYC than any other US city.

The only way I could compare Chicago and Toronto is that they're both Great Lake cities, both have diverse food scenes (completely different though), both cities number around 3 Million, Chicago and Toronto also have very large metros with sprawling suburbs.

Honorable mentions would be Austin, TX. Yes, Austin is much smaller, but it has a somewhat similar feel to Toronto in terms of culture, it's not as diverse as Toronto, but is growing very rapidly like Toronto, and becoming pretty "Diverse" in terms of different ethnicities, although Austin has heavy Spanish influence, Toronto does not

The cultural similarities are the only thing I would describe as sort of like Toronto. Both cities have a certain hipster vibe/attraction, they have a comparable crime rate per capita, they are also both very liberal cities.

That's pretty much where the similarities end.
There are American cities more liberal than Toronto, sans national healthcare although that's changed in many ways with the ACA aka Obamacare. I mean John Tory, Canadian old money and a former Conservative is mayor of Toronto (not exactly the epitome of a progressive). I love Canada, but if Joe Biden's infrastructure bill passes, he would dedicate more money to public transit per capita than Justin Trudeau - now that's progressive and liberal.
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