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Its a best city in CA.
But in world?? I don't think so
keep in mind most Canadians' version of the "world" doesn't extend beyond the west hemisphere, sometimes including a few European countries, in many cases, just Canada + USA.
I personally talked to an old lady from Toronto claiming Toronto is the "best city in the world" on her first flight to New York City. She hadn't been to Los Angeles at that time (just Anaheim), not to mention other continents, but still firmly believed her hometown is the best in the "world" (sometimes world is replaced with the word "the planet").
keep in mind most Canadians' version of the "world" doesn't extend beyond the west hemisphere, sometimes including a few European countries, in many cases, just Canada + USA.
I personally talked to an old lady from Toronto claiming Toronto is the "best city in the world" on her first flight to New York City. She hadn't been to Los Angeles at that time (just Anaheim), not to mention other continents, but still firmly believed her hometown is the best in the "world" (sometimes world is replaced with the word "the planet").
I certainly don't dispute the claim that there are provincial simpletons everywhere thinking their home city is the best thing that's ever been bestowed on this planet.
However, most Canadians? Do you have data to claim "most" Canadians think this way aside from a few anecodotal stories? I'd hardly think that an old lady's view of the world is representative of "most" people in Canada, no?
I was in a taxi cab this past weekend in downtown, and the driver was a life-long Toronto resident in his 50's who (to my surprise) claimed that Toronto is a third-world city and that Chinese and European cities were much better off in terms of development (partly true). He said he's planning to quit his job in 2 years and retire to Germany or Austria, a proper "1st world" country (he's ethnic German).
I certainly don't dispute the claim that there are provincial simpletons everywhere thinking their home city is the best thing that's ever been bestowed on this planet.
However, most Canadians? Do you have data to claim "most" Canadians think this way aside from a few anecodotal stories? I'd hardly think that an old lady's view of the world is representative of "most" people in Canada, no?
I was in a taxi cab this past weekend in downtown, and the driver was a life-long Toronto resident in his 50's who (to my surprise) claimed that Toronto is a third-world city and that Chinese and European cities were much better off in terms of development (partly true). He said he's planning to quit his job in 2 years and retire to Germany or Austria, a proper "1st world" country (he's ethnic German).
maybe exaggerated a little but not a lot.
The fact is, most Canadians know the world isn't just about Canada + the US, or a few EU countries, but when they really consider about many issues, they talk or think as if it were so, as if the rest of the world didn't matter, or were completely irrelevant. I just can't tolerate this ignorant yet overbearing west centric mindset.
Well, this reminds me the claim St Lawrence Market is ranked the world's best market place again. When I took a look at the list, it is just a handful of western countries plus Singapore. That's their "world". The thing is, people who have never been to many places would really think St Lawrence market is the best and outside NA/EU and Singapore, there are not great market places. They completely forget or choose to ignore the fact that SLM is made the best from a purely western point of view - all those varieties of cheese would mean absolutely nothing for someone who is not from a cheese consuming country (well, it may be a surprise for them that billions of people in the world don't eat cheese at all and don't care if a market has 2 or 2000 kind of it), and it is possible that markets elsewhere didn't make the list because they didn't have any cheese, something not consumed in their country at all. If for example my mother steps into SLM, she will be completely confused and probably can't buy anything, where are all the fresh fish that are still swimming in tanks and live poultry in cages she actually wants to buy? Where are the crabs or pigeons? And what's the point of all this butter and jam since none of her family members eats bread regularly and needs it at all? She will say this market completely sucks because it doesn't have anything.
How can there be a list of the world's best markets when people in the actual world need completely different foodstuff? Do the needs of those who love all the cheese and don't know how to eat fish with bones or crabs with shells count more than that of others?
And this is the problem with using the word "world" so liberally.
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The fact is, most Canadians know the world isn't just about Canada + the US, or a few EU countries, but when they really consider about many issues, they talk or think as if it were so, as if the rest of the world didn't matter, or were completely irrelevant. I just can't tolerate this ignorant yet overbearing west centric mindset.
Well, this reminds me the claim St Lawrence Market is ranked the world's best market place again. When I took a look at the list, it is just a handful of western countries plus Singapore. That's their "world". The thing is, people who have never been to many places would really think St Lawrence market is the best and outside NA/EU and Singapore, there are not great market places. They completely forget or choose to ignore the fact that SLM is made the best from a purely western point of view - all those varieties of cheese would mean absolutely nothing for someone who is not from a cheese consuming country (well, it may be a surprise for them that billions of people in the world don't eat cheese at all and don't care if a market has 2 or 2000 kind of it), and it is possible that markets elsewhere didn't make the list because they didn't have any cheese, something not consumed in their country at all. If for example my mother steps into SLM, she will be completely confused and probably can't buy anything, where are all the fresh fish that are still swimming in tanks and live poultry in cages she actually wants to buy? Where are the crabs or pigeons? And what's the point of all this butter and jam since none of her family members eats bread regularly and needs it at all? She will say this market completely sucks because it doesn't have anything.
This is the problem with using the word "world" so liberally.
Do people in Yulin, Guangxi, China consider the rest of the world when they just slaughtered 10,000 dogs in a day for a "cultural tradition" - when such practice is clearly, soundly, and universally condemned world-wide in no uncertain terms? Somehow I doubt those dog-meat vendors have the Universal Declaration on Animal Welfare or the UN Millennium Development Goals in mind when they are publicly lynching stolen pets.
Do people in Yulin, Guangxi, China consider the rest of the world when they just slaughtered 10,000 dogs in a day for a "cultural tradition" - when such practice is clearly, soundly, and universally condemned world-wide in no uncertain terms? Somehow I doubt those dog-meat vendors have the Universal Declaration on Animal Welfare or the UN Millennium Development Goals in mind when they are publicly lynching stolen pets.
Animal cruelty is definitely despicable and revolting (although I am not against eating dogs itself). However, I doubt that, or anything as extreme reflects the general culture of any country.
The thing is, don't throw the word "world" so freely when you really mean the culture you live in. People have very different needs beyond survival so you can't really reach any consensus about the best this or that in the world. SLW is a very good example of cultural bias.
And let's not pretend Canada is so civilized and superior. It is still one of the few seal hunting nations in the world. Is it not animal cruelty? Is it so much better than killing dogs? Depends how much you love dogs or seals. One can pick the ugly customs in other countries, just don't forget the hideous skeleton in your own closet.
Animal cruelty is definitely despicable and revolting (although I am not against eating dogs itself). However, I doubt that, or anything as extreme reflects the general culture of any country.
The thing is, don't throw the word "world" so freely when you really mean the culture you live in. People have very different needs beyond survival so you can't really reach any consensus about the best this or that in the world. SLW is a very good example of cultural bias.
Yes sir, Mr. Language Cop.
I will watch my words in the future and I will do my best to guarantee 100% accuracy for everything coming out of my mouth.
No, healthcare isn't perfect here, but it is still considerably more affordable for the vast majority of people. When I was working in Boston, my company and I paid an equivalent of $2,500 USD per year in annual premiums for basic health coverage. On top of that, I had to pay co-pay every time I visit a family doctor, and a considerable co-pay the last time I went to see a cardiology specialist ($600 per visit), on top of my insurance coverage. In Boston, my annual healthcare costs alone were in the ballpark of $5000, and I'm a single, mid-20s, healthy and very fit guy. I can't imagine what it'd be like with a family.
wow sobering post BK... What I don't like about this is its very hard to control costs when things like this happen!! I can control spending 600 dollars or not for an overpriced coat but with something like HC there are so many things that can happen with your health and its non-negotiable, if it happens you must pay.
The fact is, most Canadians know the world isn't just about Canada + the US, or a few EU countries, but when they really consider about many issues, they talk or think as if it were so, as if the rest of the world didn't matter, or were completely irrelevant. I just can't tolerate this ignorant yet overbearing west centric mindset.
Well, this reminds me the claim St Lawrence Market is ranked the world's best market place again. When I took a look at the list, it is just a handful of western countries plus Singapore. That's their "world". The thing is, people who have never been to many places would really think St Lawrence market is the best and outside NA/EU and Singapore, there are not great market places. They completely forget or choose to ignore the fact that SLM is made the best from a purely western point of view - all those varieties of cheese would mean absolutely nothing for someone who is not from a cheese consuming country (well, it may be a surprise for them that billions of people in the world don't eat cheese at all and don't care if a market has 2 or 2000 kind of it), and it is possible that markets elsewhere didn't make the list because they didn't have any cheese, something not consumed in their country at all. If for example my mother steps into SLM, she will be completely confused and probably can't buy anything, where are all the fresh fish that are still swimming in tanks and live poultry in cages she actually wants to buy? Where are the crabs or pigeons? And what's the point of all this butter and jam since none of her family members eats bread regularly and needs it at all? She will say this market completely sucks because it doesn't have anything.
How can there be a list of the world's best markets when people in the actual world need completely different foodstuff? Do the needs of those who love all the cheese and don't know how to eat fish with bones or crabs with shells count more than that of others?
And this is the problem with using the word "world" so liberally.
Why does this drive you bat crazy so much lol.... Its a market... You can't have a 'best' market in the world - its simply a silly rating by National Geographic to sell a magazine and give a list..What is a great market to you may be a completely crappy one to me.. On the flip its the same thing with a city - what is 'best' to me may be worst to you.. For people who live in Toronto for 7 years though, I'd have to say that they would on the whole 'like' the city and would rank it highly for overall living otherwise they wouldn't live in it for so long right? Who cares if people who live here think its the best - clearly if they live here they like it.. I'm sure many Mexicans think Mexico City is the best or Americans NYC or British London or Chinese Shanghai or Thai's Bangkok or Dutch Amsterdam or Egyptians Cairo or Cubans Havana... blah blah blah...
No city is the 'best' for everyone - it is a given.. I can't think of one place that is best when it comes to everything - always pro's and cons man but clearly living in Toronto one could do far worse whether comparing it to western or eastern cities...
Do people in Yulin, Guangxi, China consider the rest of the world when they just slaughtered 10,000 dogs in a day for a "cultural tradition" - when such practice is clearly, soundly, and universally condemned world-wide in no uncertain terms? Somehow I doubt those dog-meat vendors have the Universal Declaration on Animal Welfare or the UN Millennium Development Goals in mind when they are publicly lynching stolen pets.
It goes both ways.. Humans are just ignorant of the world around them in general... Its not a Canadian thing...
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Originally Posted by botticelli
Animal cruelty is definitely despicable and revolting (although I am not against eating dogs itself). However, I doubt that, or anything as extreme reflects the general culture of any country.
The thing is, don't throw the word "world" so freely when you really mean the culture you live in. People have very different needs beyond survival so you can't really reach any consensus about the best this or that in the world. SLW is a very good example of cultural bias.
And let's not pretend Canada is so civilized and superior. It is still one of the few seal hunting nations in the world. Is it not animal cruelty? Is it so much better than killing dogs? Depends how much you love dogs or seals. One can pick the ugly customs in other countries, just don't forget the hideous skeleton in your own closet.
Instead of going to St Lawrence Market next outing how about we go seal hunting? Most Canadians engage in this practice on a regular basis - BIG hit in the T.DOT where over 90 percent of the native population engages in regular clubbing of seals.. I know a good spot close to the islands - let's go 'clubbing' lol...
This city is better then most, but the best is a likely a strech. 75% of the year the weather is pretty decent. All facts considered .. the glass is well more then half full and the 3 months of deep freeze pushes many of us to grab out passports and venture out to other regions of the world (at least the warmer ones). Then again ... I have never found anywhere else I wanted to live outside of this city ... so maybe it is the best.
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