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Key phrase, if you know where to look. Almost half of my friends in the U.S. are republicans. Kind of hard to have a "polite" or "sane" discourse when the first thing that comes out of their mouths is "socialism" whenever I bring up universal healthcare, "government propaganda" whenever I bring up something from CBC, or "government control" whenever I bring up climate change. At least from a U.S. perspective, there is a very very different tone and starting point when it comes to our national discourse. IMHO, I get the sense that Canada's public discourse and generally accepted values are much more aligned to that of the UK, Australia, New Zealand, where as in the U.S. it has become increasingly polarized in recent years - almost all issues from national to state to local are defined by terms like "socialism", "government control", "media propaganda" whether it'd be the Affordable Care Act on a national level to the LRT funding debate in Seattle or Boston on a local level. When you watch Canadian news channels, it's pretty much impossible to find the likes of Fox of CNN that thrives on left/right political sensationalism. Maybe Canadians are used to this, but from an American perspective, it is extremely refreshing.
The issue is more with what the dominante is in either country. The craziness is certainly more ubiquitous in the U.S. But it does exist in Canada too. It's just that it's less in your face all the time.
The issue is more with what the dominante is in either country. The craziness is certainly more ubiquitous in the U.S. But it does exist in Canada too. It's just that it's less in your face all the time.
Oh I agree. But you have to understand that it's not just an "in your face" problem anymore in America. It's more of a national plague where for the last 5-10 years the GOP has been actively sabotaging the national discourse with a toxicity unseen even during the Bush and Reagan years.
Oh I agree. But you have to understand that it's not just an "in your face" problem anymore in America. It's more of a national plague where for the last 5-10 years the GOP has been actively sabotaging the national discourse with a toxicity unseen even during the Bush and Reagan years.
It's clear to see why it took that turn, and it's race related and connected to Obama being elected and re elected. Anyways at the state level quite a bit still gets accomplished even when people are from different sides of the isle. Charlie baker being a republican working with a democratic legislature in Mass to pass some really sound legislation is an example of how things can still work and will most likely get back to that in the future.
Another electoral map landslide will force to GOP to go in that direction.
As far as media is concerned, during my time in the US I found it easy to completely avoid the stations that obviously have an agenda. PBS, NPR, BBC and Al Jazerra along with quality newspapers more than keep you Up to date without the bullsh*t.
Oh I agree. But you have to understand that it's not just an "in your face" problem anymore in America. It's more of a national plague where for the last 5-10 years the GOP has been actively sabotaging the national discourse with a toxicity unseen even during the Bush and Reagan years.
Not just the GOP.
GOP does appear conservative or borderline stupid with their Jesus frenzy, but the democrats are increasingly hypocritically obnoxious with their political correctness BS. If they keep talking about the LGBT the blacks and Hispanics again, I am gonna throw up, as if those are the most important issues of America. What they are essentially saying is "I love you, vote for me".
And of course both parties love to stick their nose in the world where it doesn't belong. Funnily the democrats more than the GOP.
I am by no means supporters are the GOP, but I just laugh at the idea that democrats are ANY better. It boggles my mind many young people think by supporting the democrats they are being "progressive", often with a sense of self-satisfaction. Check their IQ I would say.
Not just the GOP.
GOP does appear conservative or borderline stupid with their Jesus frenzy, but the democrats are increasingly hypocritically obnoxious with their political correctness BS. If they keep talking about the LGBT the blacks and Hispanics again, I am gonna throw up, as if those are the most important issues of America. What they are essentially saying is "I love you, vote for me".
And of course both parties love to stick their nose in the world where it doesn't belong. Funnily the democrats more than the GOP.
I am by no means supporters are the GOP, but I just laugh at the idea that democrats are ANY better. It boggles my mind many young people think by supporting the democrats they are being "progressive", often with a sense of self-satisfaction. Check their IQ I would say.
Not sure you realize how offensive you sound, especially given that we probably have quite a few "blacks, hispanics, and LGBT" members on this very forum. I know you are an Asian immigrant to Canada/U.S., but that doesn't exempt you or anybody from this kind of language.
I get the gist of your message: stop being so obsessed with PC. But you also realize it is the very PC that made people like you to be able to immigrate, to work, and to advance your life and career in a predominantly Caucasian society like America, Canada, and Western Europe. Like you said, let's try not to go to extremes, left or right.
OH BUT MY DEAR, AND OF COURSE I'm going to vote for the candidate that says "I love you" more than the douche who says "I hate you because you are probably a murderer and/or rapist but hey vote for me anyway".
American politics typically don't really cross the border into Canada. I know this site is American (as with so many others) but it gets a little annoying to keep reading about American politics or American race relations in a Toronto thread.
Oh I agree. But you have to understand that it's not just an "in your face" problem anymore in America. It's more of a national plague where for the last 5-10 years the GOP has been actively sabotaging the national discourse with a toxicity unseen even during the Bush and Reagan years.
Yeah, and that is what I meant when I was talking about people not wanting the craziness to invade their havens of sanity.
Not sure you realize how offensive you sound, especially given that we probably have quite a few "blacks, hispanics, and LGBT" members on this very forum. I know you are an Asian immigrant to Canada/U.S., but that doesn't exempt you or anybody from this kind of language.
I get the gist of your message: stop being so obsessed with PC. But you also realize it is the very PC that made people like you to be able to immigrate, to work, and to advance your life and career in a predominantly Caucasian society like America, Canada, and Western Europe. Like you said, let's try not to go to extremes, left or right.
OH BUT MY DEAR, AND OF COURSE I'm going to vote for the candidate that says "I love you" more than the douche who says "I hate you because you are probably a murderer and/or rapist but hey vote for me anyway".
If what I said was offensive, then those people should reflect about how fragile they are. I am totally cool with the gay right movement and stuff, but is that and should that really be a key political issue?
As to racial issues, I just find it incredibly, incredibly hypercritical. You know they fact American politicians constantly talk about black or latino voters shows exactly how different they think those people are from white population. This race obsession is disgusting. In Canada, do you often hear politicians talk about black or Asian voters? No, they don't. In France, race isn't even included in the national census. Why does an American have to be ALWAYS identified as an African American?
A more important issue is, despite Trump's apparent racial prejudice, do you really don't think H Clinton is not as racist as he? Then you are being really naive. Plenty of stories show otherwise. The only difference between the two is Trump tries to utilize people's bigotry inside with his big mouth, while Clinton takes advantage of people's low IQs and naivety.
And Clinton doesn't love "all". She only loves those potential voters she tries to buy with her meaningless words and fake smiles. How often do you hear her say "Asian families"? Trump may be a douchbag, but Clinton is venomous. (and you love her probably because you are work in finance? then it does make sense)
I am just glad America is stuck between one of the two. Great job both parties.
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