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Agreed. Nowhere is mostly English speaking in Quebec except for a few small towns and some of Montreal's more demographically English suburbs. Everyone mingles downtown so it's like a microcosm of the whole region, lot's of English but still more French than English spoken and most certainly written.
Agreed. Nowhere is mostly English speaking in Quebec except for a few small towns and some of Montreal's more demographically English suburbs. Everyone mingles downtown so it's like a microcosm of the whole region, lot's of English but still more French than English spoken and most certainly written.
I live in montreal & believe me, downtown Montreal is mostly english speaking... Many places in Monreal are english dominant... All the west island, NGD, CDN, Westmount ect are english speaking... Downtown... There is a reason why there are 2 english speaking universities there (Concordia & Mc gill...) Even in shops peoples will adress you in english first... Ghetto Mc gill is mostly english due to many Mc gill student living there... I've been to 2 downtown club (La mouche & Club nuvo) & in both places peoples were only speaking english... I can give you many exemple but will be too long
I live in montreal & believe me, downtown Montreal is mostly english speaking... Many places in Monreal are english dominant... All the west island, NGD, CDN, Westmount ect are english speaking... Downtown... There is a reason why there are 2 english speaking universities there (Concordia & Mc gill...) Even in shops peoples will adress you in english first... Ghetto Mc gill is mostly english due to many Mc gill student living there... I've been to 2 downtown club (La mouche & Club nuvo) & in both places peoples were only speaking english... I can give you many exemple but will be too long
Downtown Montreal is best described as a French-English bilingual area.
yes because peoples goes there from the whole montreal aera but try walking downtown montreal & you will hear english more than french
I think this is a case of perceptional bias - you hang out with anglos, in anglo-oriented schools, shops and bars and therefore assume that this represents the reality. It doesn't.
Due to the presence of 2 English universities in the city centre, of course you'll have the impression that most young people speak English - west of Place des Arts, at least. It isn't the case outside the 18-25 yo crowd. Outside of this very specific age range, the majority of people who fill up the office towers and shop on Sainte-Catherine speak French, with a strong minority of anglophones.
I think this is a case of perceptional bias - you hang out with anglos, in anglo-oriented schools, shops and bars and therefore assume that this represents the reality. It doesn't.
Due to the presence of 2 English universities in the city centre, of course you'll have the impression that most young people speak English - west of Place des Arts, at least. It isn't the case outside the 18-25 yo crowd. Outside of this very specific age range, the majority of people who fill up the office towers and shop on Sainte-Catherine speak French, with a strong minority of anglophones.
Well, my frends are french speaking, I came from France & went to HEC Montreal... True that perception will be a factor, I am just stating my experiences...
When I first came to montreal august 2010, I walked down st catherine & peoples adressed me in english, there was that doc on radio-canada about peoples complaining about the lack of french downtown montreal in 2009...
I got served in french downtown but I mostly heard english.
In CDN & NDG i won't comment because they are well known english neighbourhood, in fact hisoricaly, west of st catherine (I think) is mostly english while east of st catherine is French
I LOVE Montreal but I'm always confused about which language to speak when I'm at the grocery store, restaurant, etc. I'm personally not a big fan of them always switching to English as soon as they detect an Anglo accent though, and find it a bit condescending.
If I remember correctly the strip clubs on St. Catherine St. are completely Anglo...
I LOVE Montreal but I'm always confused about which language to speak when I'm at the grocery store, restaurant, etc. I'm personally not a big fan of them always switching to English as soon as they detect an Anglo accent though, and find it a bit condescending.
If I remember correctly the strip clubs on St. Catherine St. are completely Anglo...
To sum this up:
Rich places : english (Westmount, Hampstead, Cote st luc, Dollar des ormeaux ...
higest paying jobs : english speaker
but the Est is making a huge come back with lot & lot of condos under construction
Downtown Montreal is best described as a French-English bilingual area.
Although I agree with this statement, Montreal has a much more vibrant english-speaking community and diverse array of ethnicities then you give them credit for( as evidenced by your many posts).If you dont live in Montreal please stop giving constant analogys of Montreal's cultural and political repetoire as if you experienced them firsthand.
As per the initial debate, It's highly subjective and childish to act as if ones own personal preference of each town is absolute and to constantly become defensive when others semm opposed, rather then analytically compare the differences in a constructive insightful mannor. Only misunderstandings can come from this that ussually cause baseless, inconclusive arguements derived of misconceptions, of which has occured all too often in this thread.
As about my opinion? I could write an entire essay just plainly rebutting all the newly conceived stereotypes of Montreal.
Although I agree with this statement, Montreal has a much more vibrant english-speaking community and diverse array of ethnicities then you give them credit for( as evidenced by your many posts).If you dont live in Montreal please stop giving constant analogys of Montreal's cultural and political repetoire as if you experienced them firsthand.
As per the initial debate, It's highly subjective and childish to act as if ones own personal preference of each town is absolute and to constantly become defensive when others semm opposed, rather then analytically compare the differences in a constructive insightful mannor. Only misunderstandings can come from this that ussually cause baseless, inconclusive arguements derived of misconceptions, of which has occured all too often in this thread.
As about my opinion? I could write an entire essay just plainly rebutting all the newly conceived stereotypes of Montreal.
What makes you so sure I don't know anything about Montreal and don't spend lots of time there even though I don't happen to be a resident at the moment?
Note that my views on the city are usually echoed by most resident Montrealers on this forum.
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