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Old 01-30-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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Ontario decided to increase minimum wage from 10.25 to $11 per hour.

The good news to the consumers is that, we only need to pay 10% tips from now on, since their salary increased by more than 7%.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:02 AM
 
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^^cheapskate
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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When is this effective? 6 months notice, is it?
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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^^cheapskate
this has nothing to do with cheapness. It is simple math and basic logic.

Since low wage has always been used as the rationale for the tipping tradition, then higher wages would naturally lead to lower tip requirement.
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Old 01-30-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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Well did service wage also increase? Servers make less than minimum.
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Old 01-30-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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Well did service wage also increase? Servers make less than minimum.
I think employers should pay servers the full value of their service, instead of relying on customers to make up for the gap.

I don't mind pay more for my food, but the arbitrary tipping system is ridiculous. Apparently a waitress who brings you a $200 wine deserved a $30 tip (just for bringing and opening a bottle), while one brings you a $20 wine gets $3.
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Old 01-30-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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I think employers should pay servers the full value of their service, instead of relying on customers to make up for the gap.

I don't mind pay more for my food, but the arbitrary tipping system is ridiculous. Apparently a waitress who brings you a $200 wine deserved a $30 tip (just for bringing and opening a bottle), while one brings you a $20 wine gets $3.
Tipping in the US is usually 20% but people can give more if the service was outstanding but minimum wage is usually lower. Although I have to say that service is noticeably better south of the border.

Historically, at least for me, tipping in Canada was 15% but I find there's been a push to move it up to 20% to match the US. I've been handed credit card machines which had 20% as a default and you have to manually change it. Even the 15% tip on the machines may be calculated after tax so you end paying 17% as a tip. If people move to 20% under this new system, especially after-tax, than including HST puts a meal at 36% more then the menu price. Things are getting expensive!
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Old 01-30-2014, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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I think employers should pay servers the full value of their service, instead of relying on customers to make up for the gap.

I don't mind pay more for my food, but the arbitrary tipping system is ridiculous. Apparently a waitress who brings you a $200 wine deserved a $30 tip (just for bringing and opening a bottle), while one brings you a $20 wine gets $3.
I know it's stupid. I used to serve and even on a crappy day I was making way more than what someone would on minimum wage, even at my $8.90 an hour. I just meant that if server wage doesn't increase also, it doesn't make up the difference to pay less.
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Old 01-30-2014, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I think employers should pay servers the full value of their service, instead of relying on customers to make up for the gap.

I don't mind pay more for my food, but the arbitrary tipping system is ridiculous. Apparently a waitress who brings you a $200 wine deserved a $30 tip (just for bringing and opening a bottle), while one brings you a $20 wine gets $3.
You should tip BEFORE taxes. The wine issue is…well…difficult. I don't order 200 dollar bottles of wine in a restaurant often, but if I do it's usually a special occasion and I'll tip 10-15 on the wine, 15-20 on the food. Zero on the taxes.
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Old 01-31-2014, 05:48 PM
 
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You should tip BEFORE taxes. The wine issue is…well…difficult. I don't order 200 dollar bottles of wine in a restaurant often, but if I do it's usually a special occasion and I'll tip 10-15 on the wine, 15-20 on the food. Zero on the taxes.
I don't think bringing a bottle of wine, which takes 20 seconds, deserves $15-20. Otherwise, it would be the highest paid job in world. Unless this waiter has profound knowledge in wines and gave me valuable suggestions. Note that many people work for an hour and make hardly that much money.

I refuse to give tips on the value of the wine. $3 is more than enough for the effort to bring me and open the bottle.
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