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Old 10-08-2009, 01:28 PM
 
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The Harmonized Sales Tax basically charges 8% additional tax on products they were previously only taxed at 5%, starting from next year.
Surprisingly, I have not heard much voice of objection since it was proposed. Aren't we taxed enough already?
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:46 PM
 
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Agreed. The only problem is that Canadians are so complacent about anything not involving Tim Hortons, hockey, beer, or cable TV, that everyone will roll over and take this one right up the arse.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Etobicoke, ON
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It does seem rather stupid and unwarranted.

What was the point in lowering GST if they're just going to jack up essential commodities by 8%? Aside from major purchases, I fail to see how the already minuscule savings that I've received from saving 2% on tax will be worth anything when I start getting charged an extra 8% on most of my weekly expenditures like groceries.

I'll still vote Conservative, because the Liberals would have to overhaul their entire party to get my vote, but still. It's unwarranted.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:10 PM
 
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I'll still vote Conservative, because the Liberals would have to overhaul their entire party to get my vote, but still. It's unwarranted.
Why do people get stuck in the mindset that they must vote for one of the "big three" parties? I gave up on that nonsense several years ago. If no one earns my vote, I'll go into the polling station and cast a blank ballot or I'll vote for an independent who I agree with.
This is the problem with western society lately. Everyone is brainwashed by the mass media to think alike. Why, in the name of all that's good, would I vote for a party that I don't agree with just because the Liberals need to "overhaul their entire party"?
Liberal, Conservative, NDP...all the same at their core except for some minor window dressing differences.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:18 AM
 
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It is nothing but a tax grab by the politicians. There is nothing revenue neutral about this deal. How can they increase the number of items that could be taxed and still claim that it is revenue neutral?. I am beginning to think maybe Canadians in Ontario probably like paying more taxes! that is why no one is protesting.
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Old 10-16-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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It is nothing but a tax grab by the politicians. There is nothing revenue neutral about this deal. How can they increase the number of items that could be taxed and still claim that it is revenue neutral?. I am beginning to think maybe Canadians in Ontario probably like paying more taxes! that is why no one is protesting.
My guess is that it is disguised under the name "homonized sales tax" so well that many are not smart enough to realize that it is simply a tax increase for all the products and services that were not subject to the 8% PST. For example, having a hair cut at the same place will be 8% more expensive.

Revenue-neutral? How can it be?? They didn't lower the tax of anything.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:14 PM
 
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You watch though. McGuinty will talk up the fact that he'll be giving us a one-time cheque for $300 and the people will think to themselves, "oh, free money!" Then their outrage will melt away. People are inherently stupid. They won't stop to think that they'll be paying this new tax for the rest of their lives. Spend that $300 slowly.
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:26 PM
 
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You watch though. McGuinty will talk up the fact that he'll be giving us a one-time cheque for $300 and the people will think to themselves, "oh, free money!" Then their outrage will melt away. People are inherently stupid. They won't stop to think that they'll be paying this new tax for the rest of their lives. Spend that $300 slowly.
That's exactly my suspicion, but on the other hand, I also wonder, people cannot be THAT stupid, can they?
300/8% = 3750. after we consume $3750 worth of related products, it is simply loss forever after.
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